In this episode, Megan & Jennifer are joined by Aneka Jiwaji, commercial litigator, mental health advocate, unapologetic voice on LinkedIn, and co-founder of a custom fine jewelry business. Aneka brings her full self to the conversation and reminds us why that’s exactly the point.

With warmth, humor, and candor, Aneka shares what it means to succeed in legal on her terms, as a racialized lawyer, a mom, and a multidimensional human being. She opens up about finding her voice, navigating a “let them” era of life, and how she’s rewriting outdated definitions of what it means to be a “serious lawyer.”

Learn more about our guest: 

• Connect with Aneka
• Listen to her interview with The RKH
• Check out Aneka’s jewelry @houseofjaia on Instagram
• Check out Aneka’s songs

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This episode, Megan and Jennifer share an honest look at what business development really means and why it should start with people, not pressure.

Together, they unpack the realities of growing a book of business, navigating networking as introverts and extroverts, and rethinking the idea that there’s only one way to build relationships that lead to work. From big-law lessons to independent coaching insights, they share the approaches that actually work, and why “business development” is really just relationship development.

In this conversation, they cover:

• Why the most successful business development starts with relationships, not revenue
• How to build a strategy that feels authentic to you
• Why “small talk” might just be curiosity in disguise
• How to find motivation, spot your strengths, and do BD your own way

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In this episode, Megan & Jennifer are joined by Emily Logan Stedman, litigation partner at Husch Blackwell, mental health advocate, and host of The Grace Period podcast. Emily opens up about her path through big law, her personal mental health journey, and what it means to practice law without losing your sense of self.

Through honest reflection and hard-fought wisdom, Emily shares how she went from quietly burning out as a mid-level associate to finding purpose in well-being, mentorship, and authenticity. They discuss how high-achievers often struggle in silence, how our identities get tangled up in titles, and what it looks like to pursue success on your own terms, not the ones handed to you.

Learn more about our guest: 

• Connect with Emily
• Listen to her podcast, The Grace Period
• Check out her LinkedIn post

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In this episode, Megan & Jennifer are joined by Elaine Lin Hering, facilitator, speaker, former Harvard Law professor, and author of the best-selling book, Unlearning Silence: How to Speak Your Mind, Unleash Talent, and Live More Fully. Through her global work on negotiation, leadership, and communication, Elaine has helped thousands of people speak up, find their voice, and challenge the systems that silence them.

Elaine shares the personal and professional experiences that led her to write Unlearning Silence, including why the question isn’t always how to speak up, but why we’ve stayed silent in the first place. Together, they explore how cultural conditioning, workplace dynamics, and fear of judgment shape our ability to use our voice, and how we can unlearn what no longer serves us.

Learn more about our guest:

• Connect with Elaine Lin Hering
• Check out more from Elaine here
• Check out Elaine’s book, Unlearning Silence

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In this episode, Megan & Jennifer are joined by Ian Carleton Schaefer, Partner at Sheppard Mullin, legal advisor to Fortune 100 companies and global institutions, and conductor of the Second Ending Ensemble. Ian’s story is anything but linear, and that’s exactly what makes it inspiring.

Ian shares the powerful story behind his “second ending,” a musical term turned life philosophy that helped him reconnect with a lifelong passion for music while navigating a high-powered legal career. He talks about studying conducting at Juilliard during the pandemic, how music and law are related to each other, and why every professional deserves permission to pursue the thing that lights them up.

This episode closes with a special performance excerpt from A Solar Symphony, a commissioned piece by Welsh composer Katie Jenkins, played by Ian’s Second Ending Ensemble at Jazz at Lincoln Center.

Learn more about our guest:

• Connect with Ian Carleton Schaefer
• Watch Ian’s work
• Learn more about Second Ending Ensemble

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In this episode, Megan & Jennifer sit down with William Washington III, Global CFO of Baker McKenzie, who oversees more than $3 billion in revenue across 75+ offices worldwide. William’s path to the C-suite was anything but traditional. He shares his story and the twists and turns that led him to ultimately overseeing thousands of professionals at one of the world’s largest law firms.

William shares how resilience, setting boundaries, and staying authentic shaped his leadership. He explains why wellbeing practices like walking meetings, fitness, and meditation are game changers, and why focusing on people (not just the work) transformed his career. This conversation is a must-listen for anyone curious about leadership, career growth, and what it really takes to become a law firm CFO.

Learn more about our guest: 

• Connect with William

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This bonus episode is a special reading by Stephanie Harrison. 

Listen to the full interview with Stephanie here: 

Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/chasing-titles-missing-joy-redefining-success-with-new/id1785694022?i=1000723844608

Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/episode/5VECTWHB5sZRdvuAdXJUdO?si=3138b975b8164bf6

Music Credits:
Track: Follow Your Heart
Artist: Neil Cross
License type: Music Standard
Source: Envato Market
License Info: https://audiojungle.net/item/follow-your-heart/7195577

In this episode, Megan & Jennifer are joined by Stephanie Harrison, bestselling author, podcast host, and founder of The New Happy, a movement grounded in the art and science of well-being. Stephanie holds a master’s in positive psychology from the University of Pennsylvania, formerly led learning at Thrive Global, and her work now reaches millions through her podcast, newsletter, and widely shared visual art.

In this honest, moving, and deeply affirming conversation, Stephanie shares her journey from burnout to breakthrough, and why everything changed when she stopped chasing external validation and started redefining happiness on her own terms. She unpacks the difference between “Old Happy” (think perfectionism, productivity, and proving yourself) and “New Happy” (being who you are and using that to help others).

This conversation explores how to unwind harmful cultural narratives, why helping others is the heart of true happiness, and how Stephanie's viral visuals started with just a few basic shapes and a whole lot of meaning.

Stay tuned until the end for a special treat from Stephanie.

Learn more about our guest:

• Connect with Stephanie Harrison
• Check out New Happy

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Music Credits:
Track: Follow Your Heart
Artist: Neil Cross
License type: Music Standard
Source: Envato Market
License Info: https://audiojungle.net/item/follow-your-heart/7195577

In this episode, Megan & Jennifer welcome Heather Stevenson, General Counsel at Red Cell Partners, whose career path proves that bold moves can pay off. From starting as a litigator at Sullivan & Cromwell to owning and running a Boston juice bar, then returning to law to lead at the Boston Globe, and now at a tech incubation firm, Heather’s journey is anything but linear. She shares how entrepreneurial lessons, marathon training, and curiosity have shaped her leadership style, why personal connections matter more than perfect client alerts, and the boundaries that help her thrive as GC. This is a conversation about resilience, reinvention, and redefining what a legal career can look like.

Learn more about our guest:

• Connect with Heather
• Check out Red Cell Partners

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In this episode, Megan & Jennifer are joined by the incomparable Roy Sexton, Chief Marketing Officer at Vedder Price, former International President of the Legal Marketing Association, and one of INvolve’s Top 100 OUTstanding LGBTQ+ Executives. 

In this warm, funny, and deeply insightful conversation, Roy opens up about how he’s learned to lead without losing himself, including why he no longer ties his self-worth to professional validation, what helped him climb out of burnout, and how he approaches every CMO role with humility and curiosity. He shares the unexpected path that led him into legal marketing (spoiler: it involves penny loafers, a theater degree, and a rocking chair), his take on building true connection through content, and the power of karaoke. 

Learn more about our guest:

• Connect with Roy Sexton
• Check out Vedder Price

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