Tom is currently a 9-2 pro MMA featherweight and about to embark on a new journey with PFL against Matt Turnbull(9-6) on August 1st, live on ESPN+. We talk about the realities of trying to make it as a pro fighter, the evolution of the sport and I make a bunch of 20-30 year references the whole time.

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