This month Brother Boggs is joined by Tatianna Pugmire, a former drug and alcohol counselor that has worked her own way though things to get sober at age 18. They talk about genetic predisposition and how they both have found more sobriety in their families after getting sober themselves.  Tatianna talks about the struggles of growing up in a small town in New Mexico where gangs were prevalent and how this helped her fuel her addictions until after what was set to be her second DUI before her 19th birthday was dropped and she moved to the PNW to get sober. This is a fun episode where Don and Tatianna talk about all sorts of things including integration with "normies" and still having friends who can drink.  They discuss how OCR has become a new addiction and how 2021 is going to be a huge year.

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