In this conversation, Henning Meyer and Colin Crouch explore the evolution of social democracy, the impact of globalization, and the challenges posed by right-wing populism. They discuss the changing landscape of political identity, the need for a new vision in social democracy, and the importance of cooperation in addressing societal issues. The conversation highlights the necessity of building social infrastructure and addressing economic inequality while navigating the complexities of migration policies and the future of leftist politics in Europe.