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Serverless tools have come a long way since the release of AWS Lambda in 2014. Serverless apps were originally architected around Lambda, with the functions-as-a-service being used to glue together larger pieces of functionality and API services.

Today, many of the common AWS services such as API Gateway and DynamoDB have functionality built in to be able to respond to events. These services can use Amazon EventBridge to connect to each other. In many cases, a developer does not need AWS Lambda to glue services together in order to build an event-driven application.

Jeremy Daly is the host of the Serverless Chats podcast, a show about patterns and strategies in serverless architecture. Jeremy joins the show to talk about modern serverless development, and the new tools available in the AWS ecosystem.

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Facebook Messenger is a chat application that millions of people use every day to talk to each other. Over time, Messenger has grown to include group chats, video chats, animations, facial filters, stories, and many more features. Messenger is a tool for utility as well as for entertainment.

Messenger is used both on mobile and on desktop, but the size of the mobile application is particularly important on mobile. There are many users who are on devices that do not have much storage space.

As Messenger has accumulated features, the iOS code base has grown larger and larger. Several generations of Facebook engineers have rotated through the company with the responsibility of working on Facebook Messenger, which has led to different ways of managing information within the same codebase. The iOS codebase had room for improvement.

Project Lightspeed was a project within Facebook that had the goal of making Messenger on iOS much smaller. Mohsen Agsen is an engineer with Facebook, and he joins the show to talk about the process of rewriting the Messenger app.

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Modern web development involves a complicated toolchain for managing dependencies. One part of this toolchain is the bundler, a tool that puts all your code and dependencies together into static asset files. The most popular bundler is webpack, which was originally released in 2012, before browsers widely supported ES Modules.

Today, every major browser supports the ES Module system, which improves the efficiency of JavaScript dependency management. Snowpack is a system for managing dependencies that takes advantage of the browser support for ES Modules. Snowpack is made by Pika, a company that is developing a set of web technologies including a CDN, a package catalog, and a package code editor.

Fred Schott is the founder of Pika and the creator of Snowpack. Fred joins the show to talk about his goals with Pika, and the ways in which modern web development is changing.

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Food delivery apps have changed how the restaurant world operates. After seven years of mobile food delivery, the volume of food ordered through these apps has become so large that entire restaurants can be sustained solely through the order flow that comes in from the apps. This raises the question as to why you even need an “on-prem” restaurant.

A cloud kitchen is a large, shared kitchen where food is prepared for virtual restaurants. These virtual restaurants exist only on mobile apps. There are no waiters, there are only the food delivery couriers who pick up the food from these warehouse-sized food preparation facilities. 

A virtual restaurant entrepreneur could open up multiple restaurants operated from the same cloud kitchen. The mobile app user might see separate restaurant listings for a pizza place, a cookie bakery, and a Thai food restaurant, when all of them are operated by the same restaurateur.

Ashley Colpaart is the founder of The Food Corridor, a system for cloud kitchen management. Ashley joins the show to talk about the dynamics of virtual restaurants and the cloud kitchen industry.

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Remote engineering work makes some elements of software development harder, and some elements easier. With Slack and email, communication becomes more clear cut. Project management tools lay out the responsibilities and deliverables of each person. GitHub centralizes and defines the roles of developers.

On the other hand, remote work subtracts the role of nuanced conversation. There is no water cooler or break room. Work can become systematic, rigid, and completely transactional. Your co-workers are your allies, but they feel less like friends when you don’t see them every day. For some people, this can have a devastating long-term impact on their psyche.

Managers have the responsibility of ensuring the health and productivity of the people that work with them. Managing an all-remote team includes a different set of challenges than an in-person team. 

Ryan Chartrand is the CEO of X-Team, a team of developers who work across the world and collaborate with each other remotely. X-Team partners with large companies who need additional development work. Ryan joins the show to talk about the dynamics of leading a large remote workforce, as well as his own personal experiences working remotely.

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Over the last fifteen years, there has been a massive increase in the number of new software tools. This is true at the infrastructure layer: there are more databases, more cloud providers, and more open-source projects. And it’s also true at a higher level: there are more APIs, project management systems, and productivity tools.

ClickUp is a project management and productivity system for organizations and individuals. The goal of ClickUp is to create a system that integrates closely with other project management systems, popular SaaS tools, and the Google Suite of docs and spreadsheets. The company was started in 2016, and despite raising zero outside capital, it has grown as rapidly as many venture-backed companies.

Zeb Evans and Alex Yurkowski are the founders of ClickUp. They join the show to talk about their experience building the company. We talk through their process of scaling the infrastructure, and their philosophy of moving fast. This episode has some useful strategic advice for anyone who is looking to take a product to market and iterate quickly–even if that product is bootstrapped. Full disclosure: ClickUp is a sponsor of Software Engineering Daily.

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Infrastructure-as-code allows developers to use programming languages to define the architecture of their software deployments, including servers, load balancers, and databases. 

There have been several generations of infrastructure-as-code tools. Systems such as Chef, Puppet, Salt, and Ansible provided a domain-specific imperative scripting language that became popular along with the early growth of Amazon Web Services. Hashicorp’s Terraform project created an open source declarative model for infrastructure. Kubernetes YAML definitions are also a declarative system for infrastructure as code.

Pulumi is a company that offers a newer system for infrastructure as code, combining declarative and imperative syntax. Pulumi programs can be written in TypeScript, Python, Go, or .NET. Joe Duffy is the CEO of Pulumi, and he joins the show to talk about his work on the Pulumi project and his vision for the company. Joe also discusses his twelve years at Microsoft, and how his work in programming language tooling shaped how he thinks about building infrastructure-as-code.

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Software investing requires a deep understanding of the market, and an ability to predict what changes might occur in the near future. At the level of core infrastructure, software investing is particularly difficult. Databases, virtualization, and large scale data processing tools are all complicated, highly competitive areas.

As the software world has matured, it has become apparent just how big these infrastructure companies can become. Consequently, the opportunities to invest in these infrastructure companies have become highly competitive.

When a venture capital fund invests into an infrastructure company, the fund will then help the infrastructure company bring their product to market. This involves figuring out the product design, the sales strategy, and the hiring roadmap. A strong investor will be able to give insight into all of these different facets of building a software company.

Vivek Saraswat is a venture investor with Mayfield, a venture fund that focuses on early to growth-stage investments. Vivek joins the show to discuss his experience at AWS, Docker, and Mayfield, as well as his broad lessons around how to build infrastructure companies today.

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Cloud computing caused a fundamental economic shift in how software is built. Before the cloud, businesses needed to buy physical servers in order to operate. There was an up-front cost that often amounted to tens of thousands of dollars required to pay for these servers. 

Cloud computing changed the up-front capital expense to an ongoing operational expense, with businesses increasingly shifting to Amazon Web Services, Microsoft Azure, and Google Compute Platform. 

Although the initial motivation for moving onto cloud providers might have been decreased cost, over time the cloud providers have developed unique services that make software even easier to build than before. There has also been a proliferation of new software infrastructure companies that have been built on top of the cloud providers, giving rise to new databases, logging companies, and platform-as-a-service products.

Danel Dayan is a venture investor with Battery Ventures and a co-author of the State of the OpenCloud 2019, a report that compiles a wide set of statistics and information on how cloud computing and open source are impacting the software industry. Danel joins the show to talk about his work as an investor, as well as his previous career at Google, where he worked on mergers and acquisitions.

If you want to reach Danel you can email him at [email protected] or tweet at him via @daneldayan.

The views expressed in this podcast are the interviewee’s own and not those of Battery Ventures or of any person or organization affiliated or doing business with Battery Ventures. Further, the information discussed in the podcast is not intended for use by any current or potential investor in any investment fund affiliated with Battery Ventures. For more information about Battery Ventures’ potential financing capabilities for prospective portfolio companies, please refer to our website. Matillion, Sumo Logic and Woven are Battery portfolio companies and are discussed for illustrative purposes only. For a full list of all Battery investments, please click here.

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Low code tools can be used to build an increasing number of applications. Knowledge workers within a large corporation can use low code tools to augment their usage of spreadsheets. Entrepreneurs can use low code tools to start businesses even without knowing how to code.

Modern low code tools have benefited from steady improvements in cloud infrastructure, front-end frameworks like ReactJS, and browser technology such as the V8 JavaScript engine. These building blocks led to the popular low code products such as Webflow, Bubble, Retool, and Airtable. The low code products are supported by a broad selection of domain-specific APIs such as Stripe, Twilio, and Zapier.

Ben Tossell runs Makerpad, a site devoted to low-code and no-code applications. Makerpad describes how to use these tools to design sophisticated applications that don’t require you to write code. But they do require a different kind of software engineering. To create applications intelligently with low-code tools, you need to know how the tools fit together, and you need to be willing to persist through a process of iteration and debugging that is similar to traditional software engineering.

Ben joins the show to talk about his experience building low-code tools, the use cases for these tools, and his predictions for how they will impact the future of software.

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