Today's Ungrind conversation is so wide ranging that Joey concludes that he and Jason 'have basically solved all of life's problems in 45 minutes.'

Joey introduces us to his new 'Jenny's Rule' philosophy, while Jason emphasises the importance of reversing the psychology of what we perceive to be life's 'inconveniences'. Themes of altruism and 'selfless acts' - vis-a-vis social media promotion - are also explored, a call out is made for listeners coping with relentless anxiety, and Joey tells a story about monks.

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