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Joey Torkildson and Jason Harmon draw the curtains on an era, hanging up their microphones after the last ever episode of the Ungrind.
In it they reflect on the themes that have remained constant throughout the show, such as the importance of being present in the moment and not being consumed by obsessing over productivity.
Jason confesses an addiction to profit driven productivity but is increasingly better at concentrating on the 'juice of life' instead. Joey explains how he has been able to push his own 'anxiety avatar' away from his shoulder and towards the back of the room, where its whispers of 'you should be...' can still be heard but not always that audibly.
The last of over 150 tête-à-têtes ends with Jason and Joey expressing gratitude for the journey to date and the opportunities they have had to discuss it with one another, nicely wrapped up with Joey's admiration for a hypothetical ant.
'All Good Things Come To An End'
Today' show brings with it the sad announcement that The UnGrind will be coming to an end with next week's show being the last.
Joey and Jason discuss the life of the show, changing the name, what they have learned about life and needing to buy into ideas to commit to them.
On the lighter side, the guys discuss Jim Carrey's latest tweet storm, money being a made up concept and all the crazy talk you can expect from the dynamic duo.
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Jason and Joey go for a morning walk while speaking to one another, pondering the importance of expectations, control and the compound effect of life. Jason reflects on having one of the best weeks he's had in a long time, and Joey connects his experiences to that of the Pope. Meanwhile a debate arises over the question of how much we benefit from expecting the worse or having no expectations at all.
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"Give less f***s is what it boils down to" - Joey Torkildson
With the world collectively trying to navigate a pandemic, Joey and Jason boldly declare that to be no such thing as a problem. Advocating the "lean into it" philosophy, Joey insists that this is just a particularly hard boss on a computer game - defeat him and you will level up.
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Today’s Ungrind conversation is so wide ranging that Joey concludes that he and Jason ‘have basically solved all of life’s problems in 45 minutes.’
Joey introduces us to his new ‘Jenny’s Rule’ philosophy, while Jason emphasises the importance of reversing the psychology of what we perceive to be life’s ‘inconveniences’. Themes of altruism and ‘selfless acts’ - vis-a-vis social media promotion - are also explored, a call out is made for listeners coping with relentless anxiety, and Joey tells a story about monks.
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“You can still be a great leader without leaving the house.” - Marques Ogden
The present day situation dictates that many of us must make wholesale adjustments to ensure we survive, but many will face severe challenges in making such changes. To help make sense of the best approaches, Jason and Joey are joined by former NFL footballer Marques Ogden.
Since his NFL career Marques has made ventures into earth moving, public speaking and coaching, and has encountered his fair share of struggles along the way. Over a frank conversation, he urges people to seize COVID-19 as an opportunity in the same way he used his failures to pivot towards success.
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Welcome to The UnGrind.
This week Joey and Jason discuss their feelings on fear in the climate of the current pandemic.
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With COVID-19 having taken over our lives, Jason and Joey devote 35 minutes to crisis management - not on a practical or physical level, but questioning the psychological implications of situations such as those we face today.
Having agreed that the present day crisis is the result of the ‘collective unconscious’, the conversation moves on to possessions and the impact it has on us when we lose them. They decide that we should all treat everything we own as already broken or lost by default.
Ultimately the conversation explores the ‘I wonder how this will turn out in my favour’ mentality - when faced with doom and gloom, can you see the upside?
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Joey goes walkies in today’s episode, taking his mic out and about the neighbourhood while talking to Jason. Having evolved from Grinders to Ungrinders, they reflect on the highs and lows of life and the importance of staying on an even keel. Jason honestly and frankly opens up about his own financial challenges, but vows to stay in the moment rather than wallow in worry - helped along by the teachings of Eckhart Tolie.
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How do you think you look when you walk through the door after a full day’s grind at your desk?
And how differently do you think you’d look - and feel - if you’d taken some time out of your day to do something you enjoy, be generous to others, or spend it with those you love?
Jason and Joey address the slump, whether post-holiday blues or a rough day at work. Should you find yourself struggling mentally or physically, question whether you’re taking the right steps to nourish yourself.
Are you taking enough breaks?
Have you been spending time away from your phone or social media?
Does being a workaholic mean you don’t leave enough time for yourself?
Today is all about the importance of switching off from ‘work mode’, hitting the pause button, and allowing yourself belly laughs and true relaxation.
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The podcast currently has 122 episodes available.