Living between worlds creates an ache that helps us understand we're all foreigners here, no matter what your passport country is.

On this season finale of Neither Here Nor There, hosts Ruthie Gomez and Laura talk with guest, Brandi Carrano of the International Church of Barcelona about soul care during the settled stage and the spiritual dimensions of living between cultures. They explore how the back-and-forth between worlds helps people recognize their true longing for eternity and their identity as sojourners rather than permanent residents of any earthly location. The episode focuses on finding hope and meaning in the unique perspective that comes from cross-cultural living.

They discuss how God shows up specifically during times of change, providing both practical provisions and spiritual comfort during major life transitions. Brandi shares a powerful story about her four-year-old daughter's prayer for an outdoor space during their apartment search in Barcelona, and how God provided exactly what seemed impossible, confirming His presence and care for specific details that matter to His children during seasons of upheaval and settling.

"Gratefully, every time He has shown up in our time of change. Very specific things," Brandi reflects about God's faithfulness during transitions. "And sure enough, it was our house and we lived in that house for many years. It was just amazing to me that he showed up in specific ways that my daughter would know he was with us."

The conversation concludes with Ruthie sharing an original poem about the Narnia experience of moving between worlds, capturing the bittersweet reality of carrying multiple cultures and identities while finding ultimate security in Christ as the constant presence across all transitions. They encourage listeners to embrace the adventures and discoveries that come with cross-cultural living, despite the inherent heartache and goodbyes, trusting that there are unknown worlds of experience waiting to be discovered.