Sounds Like A Plan

In this final episode of series 2 of Sounds Like A Plan we're talking DJs, clubbing and dance music.

Our guest is Eilidh McLaughlin co-founder of Clean Scene – a collective set-up to alternative pathways for dance music community in the face of the climate emergency. They published a report, Last Night A DJ Took A Flight, in 2021 which highlighted some of the environmentally damaging cultures and practices (e.g. a popular DJ flying between multiple countries in a weekend), and presented a series of solutions. 

Here, Eilidh discusses the reactions to their work, and reflects on the experience of working with Stop Climate Chaos Scotland in Glasgow at COP26 in November. 

And before the series is wrapped up, hosts Fay Milton and Greg Cochrane will also leave you with some recommendations.

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Sounds Like A Plan series 2 is supported by Festival Republic. They put on festivals including the legendary Isle of Wight festival, that will take place 16-19 June, 2022, near Newport, Isle of Wight. Weekend and day tickets are on sale now:

https://isleofwightfestival.com/info/tickets

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Links to things discussed in the podcast:

Clean Scene 'Last Night A DJ Took A Flight' report

https://cleanscene.club/report.pdf

Clean Scene on Instagram 

https://www.instagram.com/cleanscene.club/?hl=en

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This episode's recommendations:

Fay recommends:

Tamsin Omond's book 'Do Earth: Healing Strategies For Humankind'

https://www.waterstones.com/book/do-earth/tamsin-omond//9781914168000

Greg recommends:

Future Energy Artists' 'Solar Slice' project 

https://www.feat.ltd/post/introducing-the-solar-slice

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This episode was partly recorded at Pirate studios. Pirate have modern and affordable recorded locations around the UK available to book 24/7.

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We hear it time and again, the most impactful contribution music can make to the broader climate crisis is to shout about it. 

Jess Kangalee is a leader in this area having founded her own PR company - her clients include Mykki Blanco to Rochelle Jordan, a space she specifically created to champion multi-genre queer artists and artists of colour - where she works with musicians to tell their stories and amplify their activism. 

Set up following the murder of George Floyd in 2020, Jess is also an active member of the Black Music Coalition – an organisation dedicated to eradicating racial inequality and establishing equality and equity for Black executives, artists and their communities within the UK Music Industry. Jess discusses the parallels between activist movements - from climate to race - and how they can support each other, and raise each other's voices to build lasting change. 

Co-hosts Fay Milton and Greg Cochrane will also leave you with some weekly recommendations. 

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Sounds Like A Plan series 2 is supported by Festival Republic. They put on festivals including the legendary Isle of Wight festival, that will take place 16-19 June, 2022, near Newport, Isle of Wight. Weekend and day tickets are on sale now:

https://isleofwightfestival.com/info/tickets

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Links to things discussed in the podcast:

Good Energy PR

https://www.goodenergypr.com/

Black Music Coalition 

https://www.blackmusiccoalition.co.uk/

Cultural Intelligence training 

https://culturalq.com/

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This episode's recommendations:

Fay recommends:

NO MUSIC ON A DEAD PLANET

https://musicdeclares.net/

Greg recommends:

Podcast: Life Sentence 

https://www.magscreative.co.uk/2021/11/18/launching-life-sentence-our-newest-mags-creative-original/

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This episode was partly recorded at Pirate studios. Pirate have modern and affordable recorded locations around the UK available to book 24/7.

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Fay Milton

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Greg Cochrane

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Charlotte Church has a deep history with both activism and music – and right now she's putting her energy into two grassroots projects that bring together the strands of education, environment, wellbeing, sustainability and the future of our planet. 

She joins co-hosts Fay Milton and Greg Cochrane to discuss Rhydoldog – an area of outstanding natural beauty in mid-Wales – where, along with the community, she's building a healing retreat centre. She also explains how The Awen Project, the democratic school she co-founded, approaches topics like climate education. She also reveals her plan to become a gong bath practitioner! 

It's all rooted in a deep passion for the natural environment and the urge to create a better future for the next generations. 

Fay and Greg also reflect on the outcomes of COP26, and leave you with some recommendations. 

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Sounds Like A Plan series 2 is supported by Festival Republic. They put on festivals including the legendary Leeds Festival, being at Bramham Park, Leeds on August 26-28th 2022. Weekend tickets are available now:

https://www.leedsfestival.com/tickets

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Links to things discussed in the podcast:

The Rhydoldog Project

https://rhydoldog.wixsite.com/my-site

The Awen Project

https://www.theawenproject.com/

This episode's recommendations:

Fay's recommendation

Hope In The Dark, by Rebecca Solnit 

https://www.hive.co.uk/Product/Rebecca-Solnit/Hope-In-The-Dark--Untold-Histories-Wild-Possibilities/19374305

Greg's recommendation

The YIKES Podcast, hosted by Mikaela Loach and Jo Becker 

https://podcasts.apple.com/gb/podcast/the-yikes-podcast/id1498623503

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This episode was partly recorded at Pirate studios. Pirate have modern and affordable recorded locations around the UK available to book 24/7.

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Fay Milton

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Greg Cochrane

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As revenue models have changed, merchandise has become increasingly important to the livelihoods of many musicians. 

But fashion is also a big polluter and can be massively wasteful. British metal band Architects take a responsible approach. With their online merch store they release limited drops to reduce overstock, carefully select materials and manufacture in the UK to cut down on distribution. 

Singer Sam Carter joins hosts Fay Milton and Greg Cochrane to discuss how and why they've taken these steps. Plus, he chats about his work as an ambassador for Sea Shepherd UK – a non-profit marine wildlife organisation dedicated to end the destruction of ocean habitats – whose profile was raised by Netflix's recent Seapiracy documentary. 

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Sounds Like A Plan series 2 is supported by Festival Republic. They put on festivals including the legendary Leeds Festival, being at Bramham Park, Leeds on August 26-28th 2022. Weekend tickets are available now:

https://www.leedsfestival.com/tickets

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Links to things discussed in the podcast:

Onto – flexible electric car subscription 

https://on.to/

Massive Attack, Dale Vince and Bill Posters launch eco-bot.net 

https://www.creativereview.co.uk/eco-bot-robert-del-naja-bill-posters-cop26-greenwashing/

COP26: Watch Julie’s Bicycle's 'The Missing Link' Green Zone event

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lLA0zbZkfFE&feature=youtu.be

INSIDE: COP26 x Clyde Built Radio – listen to radio episodes 

https://soundcloud.com/clydebuiltradio

UMA Entertainment's COP26 event, featuring Aurora, Nick Mulvey + more 

https://www.universe.com/events/cop26-special-event-digital-experience-gbp-tickets-london-Y4QLW0?utm_source=stabal&utm_medium=instagram&utm_campaign=cop26&utm_content=later-22123759

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This episode was partly recorded at Pirate studios. Pirate have modern and affordable recorded locations around the UK available to book 24/7.

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Welcome to a very special episode of Sounds Like A Plan recorded in Glasgow during the UN’s historic COP26 climate summit.

Outside of the official climate negotiations, the city has been buzzing with activity – and music has had a significant presence. 

Hosts Fay Milton and Greg Cochrane chat about all the music action and gigs from the first week at COP26, plus their experiences of witnessing world leaders attending the 'Blue Zone' right through to Greta Thunberg's address at the Fridays For Future protest. 

Enter Shikari were one of those gigs, in Glasgow for two night's supporting Music Declares Emergency's #NoMusicOnADeadPlanet. Singer Rou Reynolds joined the podcast to discuss his COP26 experience, his band's history of bringing climate action into their art and the response of their peers. 

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Sounds Like A Plan series 2 is supported by Festival Republic. They put on festivals including the legendary Leeds Festival, being held at Bramham Park, Leeds on August 26-28th 2022. Weekend tickets are available now:

https://www.leedsfestival.com/tickets

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Links to things discussed in the podcast:

Fridays For Future speeches at Glasgow George Square, Friday 5 November 2021

https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCFvVoROaXl-LFyyouEWw8Sw

UMA Entertainment COP26 special event

https://www.instagram.com/umaentertain/?hl=en

Ed Hawkins' climate stripes, used by Enter Shikari

https://showyourstripes.info/s/globe

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Fay Milton

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Greg Cochrane

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NFTs are the most hyped new format the music space has seen in years – recently everyone from Grimes to Kings of Leon have got in on the act. However, traditional NFTs also have a tremendously harmful effect on the environment. But these digital collectibles don’t have to. 

Max Shand is the creator of Serenade, a recently launched NFT platform who, via the technology they utilise, have a more eco conscious approach. And, in a world where these digital collectibles change hands for huge sums of money, he wants NFTs to be affordable and accessible to real music fans while creating a sustainable system that financially rewards creators. He's also very good at explaining what NFTs are, in case you're still thoroughly confused. 

Hosts Fay Milton and Greg Cochrane also share some recommendations.

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Sounds Like A Plan series 2 is supported by Festival Republic. They put on festivals including the legendary Reading Festival, being at Richfield Avenue, Reading on August 26-28th 2022. Weekend tickets are available now:

https://www.readingfestival.com/tickets

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Links to things discussed in the podcast:

Serenade NFTs

https://serenade.co/

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This episode's recommendations:

Fay's recommendation

Vestiaire Collective - buy second hand clothes 

https://us.vestiairecollective.com/

Greg's recommendation

Seat At The Table documentary series presented by Jack Harries 

https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLCz4fqxNcuDkYWH0A83DRQXBKJ4Ww2OO1

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This episode was partly recorded at Pirate studios. Pirate have modern and affordable recorded locations around the UK available to book 24/7.

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Fay Milton

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Greg Cochrane

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The worlds of law and music may seem like unexpected companions in the climate crisis, but brought together they’re a formidable force for change.

Here, environmental lawyer and founder of ClientEarth James Thornton discusses how his organisation’s work with Coldplay, Brian Eno and Pink Floyd’s David Gilmour has directly halted the coal-fired power plants, saved lives and preserved the planet. Client Earth are considered one of the most impactful climate organisations out there – and rightly so. 

James is also a huge advocate for how art can help communicate urgency, but also build a vision of hope that'll encourage all us to contribute towards a better, healthier, fairer future. 

He also shares his thoughts on UN’s pivotal COP26 summit in Glasgow - being held just days away now in Glasgow, UK - and hosts Fay Milton and Greg Cochrane will also leave you with some recommendations.

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Sounds Like A Plan series 2 is supported by Festival Republic. They put on festivals including the legendary Reading Festival, being at Richfield Avenue, Reading on August 26-28th 2022. Weekend tickets are available now:

https://www.readingfestival.com/tickets

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Links to things discussed in the podcast:

Dave Gilmour’s viral message about the sale of his guitars and Client Earth 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BHrd8NUOVH4

ClientEarth summit

https://events.hubilo.com/ClientEarthSummit2021/register

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This episode's recommendations:

Fay's recommendation

What a Wonderful World - Choir's Sing For Change 

https://www.musicdeclares.net/

Greg's recommendation

On.to – all inclusive electric car subscription

https://on.to/

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This episode was partly recorded at Pirate studios. Pirate have modern and affordable recorded locations around the UK available to book 24/7.

https://pirate.com/en/

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More from us on social media:

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Fay Milton

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Greg Cochrane

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How can artists bring effective climate action to their shows? REVERB are one of the originators of this – they currently work with musicians ranging from Billie Eilish to Tame Impala, Harry Styles to The 1975. They help musicians green their tours, while also helping to bring fans into the conversation on the ground at their concerts.

Lauren Sullivan - co-founder of the U.S. non-profit REVERB along with her partner Adam Gardner from the band Guster - joins us to talk about tangible actions like bringing eco-villages to gigs, sourcing food from local farmers and encouraging music peers to take action by sharing their learnings, data and resources.

Co-hosts Fay Milton and Greg Cochrane also discuss Coldplay’s recently announced plans for their Music For The Spheres world tour – where they’ve taken 12 steps to become more sustainable, including the introduction of a kinetic dancefloor that’ll generate clean energy to power the concert. As ever, they’ll also leave you with some recommendations.

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Sounds Like A Plan series 2 is supported by Festival Republic. They put on festivals including the legendary Reading Festival, being at Richfield Avenue, Reading on August 26-28th 2022. Weekend tickets are available now:

https://www.readingfestival.com/tickets

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Links to things discussed in the podcast:

Coldplay reveal plans for a more environmentally conscious world tour

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/entertainment-arts-58907085

REVERB’s Music Climate Revolution and resources

https://reverb.org/campaign/music-climate-revolution/

The No More Blood Wood campaign

https://reverb.org/campaign/no-more-blood-wood/

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This episode's recommendations:

Fay's recommendation

Music Declares Emergency’s special collaboration with The 1975

https://musicdeclares.shop/

Greg's recommendation

TED Talks Countdown Summit - resources

https://www.ted.com/series/countdown

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This episode was partly recorded at Pirate studios. Pirate have modern and affordable recorded locations around the UK available to book 24/7.

https://pirate.com/en/

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Instagram – @soundslikeaplanpodcast

Fay Milton

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Greg Cochrane

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A legendary artist, and one of the music world's great thinkers - Brian Eno is our first guest on series 2 of Sounds Like A Plan.

In spring 2021 Eno co-founded EarthPercent an organisation designed to help direct funds from the music industry towards some of the the most effective climate causes.

Hosts Fay Milton and Greg Cochrane joined Brian in a cupboard (explained in the podcast) at his west London studio to hear about how the project aims to accelerate action on climate, while also hearing Eno's thoughts on the steps being taken by his peers including Coldplay, U2, Billie Eilish and others. He also shares his thoughts on climate "hypocrisy", how art can help steer the perception of the climate issue and how he believes we should be talking about the emergency in terms of "opportunity".

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Sounds Like A Plan series 2 is supported by Festival Republic. They put on festivals including the beautiful music, art and wellness festival Wilderness, being held in Oxfordshire in August 4-7 2022. Early bird tickets are available now:

https://www.wildernessfestival.com/tickets/

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Links to things discussed in the podcast:

Earth/Percent

https://earthpercent.com/

ClientEarth

https://www.clientearth.org/about/

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This episode's recommendations:

Fay's recommendation

Book: 'How To Spend A Trillion Dollars' by Rowan Hooper

https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/54823535-how-to-spend-a-trillion-dollars

Climate Music Blowout, London, 17 October 2021 - tickets

https://www.climatemusicblowout.com/

Greg's recommendation

ClimateLive 2021

https://www.instagram.com/climatelive2021/?hl=en

The Earthshot Prize on BBC iPlayer

https://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episodes/p09w80wb/the-earthshot-prize-repairing-our-planet

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This episode was partly recorded at Pirate studios. Pirate have modern and affordable recorded locations around the UK available to book 24/7.

https://pirate.com/en/

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Fay Milton

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Greg Cochrane

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Welcome back! As we enter a decisive few months for climate commitments (hello, COP26!), we’ll be bringing you a brand new collection of impactful conversations with climate/music change-makers.

Here, your co-hosts Fay Milton (musician and activist, Music Declares Emergency + Savages) and Greg Cochrane (journalist and podcaster) preview the topics and the guests you can expect to hear from in the coming podcasts.

We’ll also be looking back on some significant climate and music headlines from the past few months, and look ahead to what to expect from the vital, forthcoming few months of climate action. As ever, we’ll also leave you with some recommendations [scroll down for more].

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Sounds Like A Plan series 2 is supported by Festival Republic. They organise festivals including the brilliantly eclectic Latitude, being held in Suffolk in July 2022. Early bird tickets are available now:

https://www.latitudefestival.com/tickets

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Links to things discussed in the podcast:

Massive Attack x Tyndall Institute for Climate Research’s recent collaborative report

https://www.tyndall.ac.uk/news/massive-attack-publish-tyndall-centre-climate-change-live-music-roadmap

UK festivals recently affected by extreme weather

https://www.hertfordshiremercury.co.uk/news/hertfordshire-news/standon-calling-suspended-thunderstorms-heavy-5697656

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This episode's recommendations:

Fay's recommendation

Climate Music Blowout event, London, Sunday October 17

https://www.climatemusicblowout.com/

Greg's recommendation

Your Brain On Climate podcast

https://podcasts.apple.com/gb/podcast/your-brain-on-climate/id1577093580

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This episode was partly recorded at Pirate studios. Pirate have modern and affordable recorded locations around the UK available to book 24/7.

https://pirate.com/en/

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More from us on social media:

Instagram – @soundslikeaplanpodcast

Fay Milton

Twitter – @faymilton

Instagram – @faymilton

Greg Cochrane

Twitter – @Gregcochrane