On this episode, Jesse and Mark head into the attic—and straight into Aqua Lung, the strange, shifting fantasy realm at the heart of Joe the Barbarian (2010). They break down Grant Morrison’s eight-issue story about Joe, a 13-year-old dealing with type 1 diabetes and the grief of losing his father. When Joe’s blood sugar crashes during a stormy afternoon alone, his house becomes a mythic battlefield, complete with prophecies, toy-warriors, and a looming force known as King Death—all while Joe’s real-world mission is desperately simple: find sugar and survive.

Jesse digs into the emotional core of the book—how the fantasy quest doubles as a kind of self-therapy, reshaping fear, trauma, and loss into something Joe can fight through. The conversation explores why the “Dying Boy” label hits harder the more you sit with it, and how the story’s ambiguity keeps you guessing: is this a true otherworld adventure, or a vivid hallucination born from crisis and stress?

Meanwhile, Mark brings a more skeptical lens—clocking the familiar DNA of kid-to-fantasy-world storytelling (with big Neverending Story energy) while still appreciating Morrison’s use of the unreliable narrator and the way the book immerses you in Joe’s perspective. Together, they weigh the strengths (emotion, atmosphere, visual clarity) against the potential drawbacks (lengthy worldbuilding across eight issues), and talk through what makes this one resonate—especially for younger readers or anyone interested in how imagination can become a survival tool.