Not everyone is welcome in the public spaces that surround us and not all spaces, and the faces that reside there, are seen as being equal. This podcast prioritises the need to open our eyes to the realities of space and the racial spatiality they support and nurture. In this, the 13th episode of the PEPRN Podcast, we talk about Brian Culp's 2020 paper ‘Thirdspace Investigations: Geography, Dehumanization, and Seeking Spatial Justice in Kinesiology’ from Quest.