The Software Process and Measurement Cast 605 features our interview with Jodie Kane. Jodie and I discussed involving product owners in retrospectives. Jodie suggests the answer should not be cut and dry but rather context-driven. Jodie is a passionate, value-driven servant leader with a unique, energetic style that brings out the best in people and opens space for teams to be self-organizing high performers focused on delivering customer value and getting things done. She has spent a lifetime honing her servant leadership skills, inviting people to work together, and creating space for human engagement to develop innovative, self-organizing, value-driven teams. Contact Jodie on LinkedIn at https://www.linkedin.com/in/jodieenglekane/ Re-Read Saturday News Chapter 3, Flow Efficiency, Little's Law and Economic Impact, of Tame your Work Flow is incredibly important for understanding the overall book. In your re-read spend the time needed understanding how the themes noted in the chapter title inter-relate. Remember to buy a copy of Tame your Work Flow to support the authors and blog! Week 1: Logistics and Front Matter - https://bit.ly/2LWJ3EY Week 2: Prologue (The Story of Herbie) - https://bit.ly/3h4zmTi Week 3: Explicit Mental Models - https://bit.ly/2UJUZyN Week 4: Flow Efficiency, Little's Law and Economic Impact - https://bit.ly/2VrIhoL Next SPaMCAST The Software Process and Measurement Cast 606 features our interview with Marco Faella, author of Seriously Good Software: Code that Works, Survives, and Wins. Marco and I discussed quality, craftsmanship, and how being a passionate coder and academic mix.