Cue the music . . . Happy Birthday, Software Process and Measurement Cast!  Today we begin year 15 with a visit from Johanna Rothman.  We talked about her THREE new books: Practical Ways to Manage Yourself: Modern Management Made Easy, Book 1 Practical Ways to Lead & Serve (Manage) Others: Modern Management Made Easy, Book 2 -   Practical Ways to Lead an Innovative Organization: Modern Management Made Easy, Book 3 -   We of course covered more ground.  For example about 2/3rds of the way through we talked about why the word experiment is a dirty word in most organizations. This is a longer interview, but when I grow up I want to be just like Johanna (I am serious).  Here is her bio: Johanna Rothman, known as the “Pragmatic Manager,” offers frank advice for your tough problems. She helps leaders and teams do reasonable things that work. Equipped with that knowledge, they can decide how to adapt their product development. With her trademark practicality and humor, Johanna is the author of 18 books about many aspects of product development. Her most recent books are the Modern Management Made Easy series, From Chaos to Successful Distributed Agile Teams (with Mark Kilby) and Create Your Successful Agile Project: Collaborate, Measure, Estimate, Deliver. See all her books, blog, and other resources at jrothman.com and createadaptablelife.com. The Software Process and Measurement Cast is a proud media sponsor of the DevOps Online Summit.  Not to put too fine a point on it, one of the best ways to get your message heard is to speak.  The crew at the DevOps Online Summit provides a phenomenal platform to network with fellow practitioners from all over the world. Start the journey to speaking at the DevOps Online Summit 2021 by submitting at     Re-Read Saturday News  Today we take on Chapter 7 of by Jeff Dalton. In three more weeks, we will begin (it is time to buy a copy). This week’s installment can be found at www.tomcagley.com/blog Previous installments: Week 1: -   Week 2: - Week 3: -   Week 4: -   Week 5: -   Week 6: -   Week 7: -   Week 8: -   Next SPaMCAST User Stories and Tony Timbol will take center stage. User stories are ubiquitous in agile.  Getting them right is really important. Tony gives us some ideas to move the ball forward.