We are on our annual holiday and will return with new programs on October 22nd. The Software Process and Measurement Cast 775 is a re-release of SPaMCAST 635 - Practical Ways to Manage, A Conversation with Johanna Rothman. The show was originally released on January 24, 2021. It was one of the SPaMCAST's many anniversary editions. Enjoy our conversation The original introduction - Cue the music . . . Happy Birthday, Software Process and Measurement Cast! Today we begin year 15 with a visit from Johanna Rothman. We talked about her THREE new books: Practical Ways to Manage Yourself: Modern Management Made Easy, Book 1 https://amzn.to/2LXKkiQ Practical Ways to Lead & Serve (Manage) Others: Modern Management Made Easy, Book 2 - https://amzn.to/39Viwnj Practical Ways to Lead an Innovative Organization: Modern Management Made Easy, Book 3 - https://amzn.to/3qS90Z3 We of course covered more ground. For example about 2/3rds of the way through we talked about why the word experiment is a dirty word in most organizations. This is a longer interview, but when I grow up I want to be just like Johanna (I am serious). See all her books, blogs, and other resources at jrothman.com and createadaptablelife.com.