David Gillanders, Executive Director of Pathways of Hope, brings brutal honesty to this conversation. He challenges inflated success rates, explains why the system chases numbers over people, and shares how Housing First has been reduced to a checklist instead of a true support model. David speaks openly about capitalism, poverty, and the political choices that keep people homeless.

If you’ve ever wondered why homelessness keeps getting worse despite all the efforts to solve it, this episode will give you answers most people are too afraid to say out loud.