Episode #013 is a special recording. We know it has been a while since we recorded a full episode and we wanted to make sure, to our listeners, that we are still active and we are planning to record a new episode in August. This clip that you will hear is an unaired extended clip of episode 12 with guest Kong Pha. Here we talk about clan politics in the Hmong community and the reluctant embrace of Hmong women in these spaces.

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