Former NZ Prime Minister Helen Clark was head of the United Nations Development Programme until 2017, so she knows international institutions from the inside. She believes there has been a failure of global leadership, and she’s not afraid to call it out, or to criticise those she holds responsible, including US President Donald Trump. Clark joins hosts Adam Dudding and Eugene Bingham for an extended interview about how the world needs to act fast to prevent coronavirus sweeping back with a vengeance.

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