We had the privilege of having a good old chinwag with Jagwar Ma founder, video artist, producer and movie scorer Jono Ma. We discuss the story of their early explosion onto the scene and getting signed, the early days of the band, Len Lye, meeting Andrew Weatherall and what happens when a musician starts fucking hating music! We find out the current status of the band and get a glimpse into the scene he's starting in Byron Bay. And greyhound racing, plenty of talk about greyhound racing! Even if you don't know the band that well, it's an interesting insight into what makes one of Australia's most creative musicians tick.