Richard Haass, president of the Council on Foreign Relations, is one of the world's leading thinkers on international affairs. His most recent book, "The World: A Brief Introduction" is a one volume crash course into how we got to where we are and where we go from here. It is now out in paperback and to mark that event, we sat down with Richad to discuss the book, America's changing role in the world, the impact of COVID, our very different rivalries with China and Russia and much much more. Ed Luce of the Financial Times joins in the conversation for a pod episode you won't want to miss.

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