Spencer Sunshine has been researching and organizing against the Far Right and Neo-Nazi movements for decades. His book Neo-Nazi Terrorism and Countercultural Fascism is a modern classic on the subject. On today's show we talk how figures like Boyd Rice, Michael Moynihan, Nikolas Shreck and Adam Parfrey subtly and otherwise seeded Neo-nazi ideology into the underground and are at least partially responsible for the modern rash of racially motivated violence. Later in the conversation we talk about how many of the main figures in the history of modern Satanism were either apologists or outright nazis also. This was a wild, occasionally uncomfortable but illuminating talk.