Spine & Nerve

Spine & Nerve

By Brian Joves, M.D.Health & Fitness
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Spine & Nerve episodes

  • Back to Basics: Lumbar Facet Joint Pain / Lumbar Spondylosis
    In this week's episode of the Spine & Nerve podcast Dr. Nicolas Karvelas and Dr. Brian Joves introduce the topic of pain coming from the lumbar facet joints - specifically when it is related to the general aging and degeneration of the spine (also known as spondylosis).
    Lumbar facetogenic pain is defined as pain originating from any structure integral to both the function and configuration of the lumbar facet joints including the fibrous capsule, synovial membrane, hyaline cartilage surfaces, and bony articulations.  This disease process is common and estimated to account for about 15% of chronic low back pain.
     
    The facet joints are part of the 3-joint complex of the spine which includes the intervertebral disc and the paired facet joints.  The primary function of the facet joints is a protective role, limiting the movement of the spine in specific planes.  Facet joint pathology is typically due to chronic repetitive strain and low grade trauma that accumulates over time and ultimately leads to chronic inflammation of the joint complex as well as peripheral and central sensitization of the involved nerves (which we have discussed in detail in prior talks - see https://anchor.fm/spine/episodes/Back-to-basics-the-Chronification-of-Pain-eon8fq).
     
    As with many chronic pain disease processes, the accurate diagnosis of this condition involves a detailed history, careful exam, diagnostic imaging, as well as the utilization of diagnostic image guided procedures.  
     
    Listen as the doctors discuss the definition, epidemiology, pathophysiology, anatomy, clinical presentation, diagnosis, as well as a brief introduction to the approach to treatment for lumbar facetogenic pain associated with lumbar spondylosis.
    This podcast is for information and educational purposes only, it is not meant to be medical or career advice. If anything discussed may pertain to you, please seek council with your healthcare provider. The views expressed are those of the individuals expressing them, the may not represent the views of Spine & Nerve.
    References:
    1. Cohen SP, Raja SN. Pathogenesis, diagnosis, and treatment of lumbar zygapophysial (facet) joint pain. Anesthesiology. 2007 Mar;106(3):591-614.
    2. Cohen SP, Bhaskar A, Bhatia A, et alConsensus practice guidelines on interventions for lumbar facet joint pain from a multispecialty, international working groupRegional Anesthesia & Pain Medicine Published Online First: 03 April 2020.
    32 min
  • Case Report: Acute on Chronic Lumbar Radiculopathy
    In this week's episode of the Spine & Nerve podcast Dr. Nicolas Karvelas and Dr. Brian Joves wrap up the series on lumbar radiculopathy with a case presentation.  
    This is a case of a young man who presented with a severe acute on chronic lumbar radiculopathy after the holidays. As he was already managed by our office, he presented very acutely (about 1-2 weeks into his flare).
    Important concepts that are emphasized with this case are: natural history of lumbar radiculopathy, electrodiagnostic evaluation for lumbar radiculopathy, and a stepwise approach to diagnostic workup and management of a debilitating case of lumbar radiculopathy.
    Listen in as the docs walk us through this case and their management choices.
    This podcast is for information and educational purposes only, it is not meant to be medical or career advice. If anything discussed may pertain to you, please seek council with your healthcare provider. The views expressed are those of the individuals expressing them, the may not represent the views of Spine & Nerve.
     
    References:
    1. McCormick Z, Cushman D, Caldwell M, Marshall B, Ghannad L, Eng C, Patel J, Makovitch S, Chu SK, Babu AN, Walega DR, Marciniak C, Press J, Kennedy DJ, Plastaras C. Does Electrodiagnostic Confirmation of Radiculopathy Predict Pain Reduction after Transforaminal Epidural Steroid Injection? A Multicenter Study. J Nat Sci. 2015 Aug;1(8):e140.
    23 min
  • Journal Club: Lumbar Radiculopathy: A Review of Lumbar Tranforaminal Epidurals Steroid Injection
    In this week's episode of the Spine & Nerve podcast Dr. Nicolas Karvelas and Dr. Brian Joves review a recent meta-analysis of transforaminal epidural steroid injections. This continues off of their conversation about lumbar radiculopathy.  
    Epidural injections to treat pain have been around for over a hundred years. It is one of the most common procedures done to help patients with back and leg pain, both acute and chronic. This meta-analysis from 2021 evaluates the safety of these procedures and looks at the evidence for their use in treating different pathologies of the lumbar spine.
    Listen as the doctors discuss transforaminal epidural steroid injections to treat disease processes such as lumbar radiculopathy, lumbar stenosis, lumbar discogenic pain and lumbar post laminectomy syndrome, as well as their personal experience treating these patients.
    This podcast is for information and educational purposes only, it is not meant to be medical or career advice. If anything discussed may pertain to you, please seek council with your healthcare provider. The views expressed are those of the individuals expressing them, the may not represent the views of Spine & Nerve.
    References:
    Helm Ii S, Harmon PC, Noe C, Calodney AK, Abd-Elsayed A, Knezevic NN, Racz GB. Transforaminal Epidural Steroid Injections: A Systematic Review and Meta-Analysis of Efficacy and Safety. Pain Physician. 2021 Jan;24(S1):S209-S232. PMID: 33492919.
    25 min
  • Back to Basics: (Acute) Lumbar Radiculopathy

    In this week's episode of the Spine & Nerve podcast Dr. Nicolas Karvelas and Dr. Brian Joves review lumbar radiculopathy.  Lumbar radiculopathy is a common diagnosis in which there is irritation or compression of one or more nerve roots in the lumbar spine. Because these nerves travel to the hips, buttocks, legs and feet, an injury in the lumbar spine can cause symptoms in these areas such as pain, weakness, numbness, and tingling..

    Lumbar radiculopathy is typically due to a structural abnormality: specifically disc herniation and/or impingement due to spondylosis. Disc herniation (a rupture in the fibrous outer wall of a lumbar disc allowing the soft nucleus of the disc to bulge outward, which can press against a nerve root) is one of the most common causes of lumbar radiculopathy. Because of how common this pathology is, it is important to understand the usual natural history of radiculopathy due to disc herniation. Acute disc herniations typically improves significantly by 6-12 weeks with conservative treatment, making patient education a key component of helping them through this painful condition.

    That being said, the differential diagnosis for lumbar radiculopathy is very broad, and as always it is important to consider and rule out more concerning etiologies.

    Listen as the doctors discuss the definition of lumbar radiculopathy, the differential diagnosis, as well as a more detailed discussion of the natural history of radiculopathy and conclude with a look at the pathophysiology of lumbar radiculopathy.

    References:

    1. Gupta A, Upadhyaya S, Yeung CM, et al. Does Size Matter? An Analysis of the Effect of Lumbar Disc Herniation Size on the Success of Nonoperative Treatment. Global Spine Journal. 2020;10(7):881-887.

    2. Weinstein JN, Tosteson TD, Lurie JD, et al. Surgical vs Nonoperative Treatment for Lumbar Disk Herniation: The Spine Patient Outcomes Research Trial (SPORT): A Randomized Trial. JAMA. 2006;296(20):2441–2450.

    3. Gugliotta M, da Costa BR, Dabis E, et al. Surgical versus conservative treatment for lumbar disc herniation: a prospective cohort study. BMJ Open 2016;6:e012938.

    4. Lin JH, Chiang YH, Chen CC. Lumbar radiculopathy and its neurobiological basis. World J Anesthesiol 2014; 3(2): 162-173.

    25 min
  • Case Report: Myofascial pain syndrome

    In this week's episode of the Spine & Nerve podcast Drs. Nicolas Karvelas and Brian Joves conclude the discussion regarding Myofascial Pain Syndromes through a case presentation. The doctors present a common clinical scenario where myofascial pain is causing significant negative impact on a patient's function, quality of life, and health.


    In the prior background and journal club episodes, the pathophysiology of myofascial pain was discussed in detail (see https://anchor.fm/spine/episodes/Back-to-Basics-Myofascial-Pain-Syndrome-eq461q and https://anchor.fm/spine/episodes/Journal-Club-Neuroinflammation-in-Myofascial-Pain-Disorders-eqlc5l).


    This episode’s discussion brings things a little more clinical than the prior two. The doctors present a clinical picture of a young woman with chronic neck pain. Listen as they walk through the process of identifying pathology and initiating a treatment protocol that focuses on physical modalities, topical ointments and trigger point therapy.


    This podcast is for information and educational purposes only, it is not meant to be medical or career advice. If anything discussed may pertain to you, please seek council with your healthcare provider. The views expressed are those of the individuals expressing them, the may not represent the views of Spine & Nerve.



    References:

    1. Ting et al. Review of Trigger Point Therapy for the Treatment of Myofascial Pain Syndromes. J Anesthesiol & Pain. 2020;1 (3):22-29.

    30 min
  • Journal Club: Neuroinflammation in Myofascial Pain Disorders
    In this week's episode of the Spine & Nerve podcast Dr. Nicolas Karvelas and Dr. Brian Joves expand on the recent discussion of myofascial pain and discuss a recently published article that explored neuroinflammation.  
    In the prior discussion, it was highlighted how prone chronic myofascial pain processes are to the development of central and peripheral sensitization.  This contributes to the debilitating nature and treatment resistance commonly seen in patients with myofascial pain syndromes.  
    Myofascial pain may not be the primary underlying process for many patients living with chronic pain, but it is very common for many to have a strong component of myofascial pain. For example, fibromyalgia has been demonstrated to have a strong central sensitization mechanism in regards to pathophysiology, however it has been demonstrated through the research that myofascial pain is a significant and important feature of fibromyalgia.
     
    Listen as the doctors discuss the findings of this interesting recent journal article investigating the objective evidence of neuroinflammation in fibromyalgia patients, and explore the implications of the article's results for the approach to chronic pain disease processes with strong myofascial pain components.  
     
    This podcast is for information and educational purposes only, it is not meant to be medical or career advice. If anything discussed may pertain to you, please seek council with your healthcare provider. The views expressed are those of the individuals expressing them, the may not represent the views of Spine & Nerve.
    References:
    1. Seo S, Jung YH, Lee D, Lee WJ, Jang JH, et al. (2021) Abnormal neuroinflammation in fibromyalgia and CRPS using [11C]-(R)-PK11195 PET. PLOS ONE 16(2): e0246152.
    2. Younger J, Noor N,McCue R, Mackey S. Low‐dose naltrexone for the treatment of fibromyalgia: findings of a small, randomized, double‐blind, placebo‐controlled, counterbalanced, crossover trial assessing daily pain. Arthritis & Rheumatism 65 (2), 529-538, 2013
    19 min
  • Back to Basics: Myofascial Pain Syndrome
    In this week's episode of the Spine & Nerve Podcast, Drs. Nicolas Karvelas and Brian Joves discuss a very underappreciated component of the chronic pain picture- myofascial pain syndrome.
    Myofascial pain is pain of the muscle and associated connective tissue. It typically presents as regional pain with associated tension, decreased range of motion, and presence of trigger points. This prevalent condition affects about 85% of patients in chronic pain clinics and will affect an estimated 85% of the general population at some point in their lives.
    Persistent myofascial nociceptive input appears particularly effective at inducing central sensitization. Notably, a 2012 article in The Pain Practitioner suggests that active trigger points are associated with elevated levels of biochemicals that contribute to sensitization. Constant myofascial pain input can result in decreased activation threshold of excitatory CNS nociceptive neurons, apoptosis of inhibitory nociceptive neurons, and an abnormal stress response. Over time, this may lead to muscle disuse, weakness, and dysfunction.
    Listen as the doctors explore the pathophysiology of myofascial pain and its connection to central and peripheral sensitization. For an in-depth explanation of peripheral and central sensitization, check out our recent episode on pain chronification (https://anchor.fm/spine/episodes/Back-to-basics-the-Chronification-of-Pain-eon8fq).
    This podcast is for information and educational purposes only, it is not meant to be medical advice. If anything discussed may pertain to you, please seek council with your healthcare provider. The views expressed are those of the individuals expressing them, they may not represent the views of Spine & Nerve.
    1. Travell JG, Simons DG. Myofascial Pain and Dysfunction: The Trigger
    Point Manual. VI and VII Baltimore: Williams & Wilkins; 1999.
    2. Shah et al. New Frontiers in the Pathophysiology of Myofascial Pain. The Pain Practitioner. 2012.
    27 min
  • Case Report: The Chronification of Pain - Low back pain in setting of chronic pancreatitis treated with long term opioids

    In this week's episode of the Spine & Nerve podcast, Dr. Brian Joves and Dr. Nicolas Karvelas expand on their recent discussion of pain chronification.  The doctors discuss a fairly common scenario in which a patient with very chronic pain develops a relatively new pain condition.  In this setting, the new onset pain process can be significantly amplified and difficult to treat.

    Previously, the doctors summarized processes including central and peripheral sensitization, which contribute significantly to the severity and refractory nature of chronic pain conditions.  Listen as the doctors review chronification of pain in the context of a patient case example and discuss treatment approaches, particularly optimizing medication management.

    Chronic pain disease processes are very challenging to diagnose and treat, especially when multiple body parts are involved.  However, there are a growing number of tools available to make a positive impact for our patients, and with a carefully crafted treatment plan, progress can be made. Although optimizing patients' health, function, and safety may be a long and winding road, this goal is achievable!

    This podcast is for information and educational purposes only, it is not meant to be medical advice. If anything discussed may pertain to you, please seek council with your healthcare provider. The views expressed are those of the individuals expressing them, they may not represent the views of Spine & Nerve.


    References:

    1. Borsook D, Youssef AM, Simons L, Elman I, Eccleston C. When pain gets stuck: the evolution of pain chronification and treatment resistance. Pain. 2018;159(12):2421-2436.

    2. Ossipov MH, Morimura K, Porreca F. Descending pain modulation and chronification of pain. Curr Opin Support Palliat Care. 2014 Jun;8(2):143-51.

    3. Morlion B, Coluzzi F, Aldington D, Kocot-Kepska M, Pergolizzi J, Mangas AC, Ahlbeck K, Kalso E. Pain chronification: what should a non-pain medicine specialist know? Curr Med Res Opin. 2018 Jul;34(7):1169-1178.

    4. A Comprehensive Review of the Celiac Plexus Block for the Management of Chronic Abdominal Pain. Current Pain and Headache Reports. 2020.

    5. Khanna IK, Pillarisetti S. Buprenorphine - an attractive opioid with underutilized potential in treatment of chronic pain. J Pain Res. 2015 Dec 4;8:859-70.

    30 min
  • Journal Club - PNS for axial low back pain, impact on pain chronification
    In this week's episode of the Spine & Nerve Podcast, Drs. Nicolas Karvelas and Brian Joves build on last week's episode on pain chronification and discuss a promising therapy for chronic axial low back pain: Peripheral Nerve Stimulation (PNS).
    PNS is an implanted device (in our discussion, a temporary implant for 60 days) that uses therapeutic electrical stimulation to target specific peripheral nerves, such as the medial branch of the dorsal ramus.  PNS has been shown to be effective for the treatment of chronic low back pain and is believed to have a positive impact on the processes of peripheral and central sensitization, which play a major role in pain chronification.
    Be sure to check out last week's episode on pain chronification for a deeper dive into this important topic (https://anchor.fm/spine/episodes/Back-to-basics-the-Chronification-of-Pain-eon8fq) and our interview with Dr. Ricardo Vallejo discussing the important interaction of glial cells in this process (https://anchor.fm/spine/episodes/More-glial-cells---Dr--Ricardo-Vallejo--science-that-matters--and-thinking-beyond-the-neuron-eb4m4i)
    PNS is an exciting treatment option for patients with chronic axial low back pain, including patients who continue to have symptoms despite radiofrequency ablation treatment. In this episode the doctors discuss an article published by Dr. Deer and his colleagues demonstrating that PNS, utilized for 6-12 hours per day for 60 days, resulted in significant improvement in pain and function in a group of patients with recurrent axial low back pain after radiofrequency ablation.
    Listen as the doctors discuss the specifics of PNS as a treatment option for chronic axial low back pain, including theories about its mechanism of action.
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    This podcast is for information and educational purposes only, it is not meant to be medical advice. If anything discussed may pertain to you, please seek council with your healthcare provider. The views expressed are those of the individuals expressing them, they may not represent the views of Spine & Nerve.
    References:
    1) Deer et al.  Percutaneous PNS of the Medial Branch Nerves for the Treatment of Chronic Axial Back Pain in Patients following Radiofrequency Ablation. Poster abstract. NANS 2021.
    2) Tiffany Lin, MD, Akshat Gargya, MD, Harmandeep Singh, MD, Eellan Sivanesan, MD, Amitabh Gulati, MD, Mechanism of Peripheral Nerve Stimulation in Chronic Pain, Pain Medicine, Volume 21, Issue Supplement_1, August 2020, Pages S6–S12.
    3) Vallejo R, Kelley CA, Gupta A, Smith WJ, Vallejo A, Cedeño DL. Modulation of neuroglial interactions using differential target multiplexed spinal cord stimulation in an animal model of neuropathic pain. Mol Pain. 2020 Jan-Dec;16:1744806920918057.
    4) Moore et al. Spinal cord stimulation. BJA Education, 16 (8): 258–263 (2016).
    25 min
  • Back to basics: the Chronification of Pain
    In this week's episode of the Spine & Nerve podcast Dr. Nicolas Karvelas and Dr. Brian Joves go back to the basics to discuss a fundamental topic: pain chronification.
    Pain chronification is defined as the process of acute pain progressing into chronic pain. Acute pain is a normal, predicted physiological response to adverse stimuli (chemical, thermal, mechanical) and has a clear protective function. Chronic pain, however, is pain without apparent biological value (not immediately protective) that has persisted beyond the normal tissue healing time (usually about 3 months). 
    The Change Pain Chronic Advisory Board provides the following definition of pain chronification: “Pain chronification described the process of transient pain progressing to persistent pain; pain processing changes as a result of an imbalance between pain amplification and pain inhibition; genetic, environmental, and biopsychosocial factors determine the risk, degree, and time-course of chronification.”
    Listen as the doctors go over important definitions, and discuss critical aspects of chronification of pain including peripheral and central sensitization.
    This podcast is for information and educational purposes only, it is not meant to be medical or career advice. If anything discussed may pertain to you, please seek council with your healthcare provider. The views expressed are those of the individuals expressing them, the may not represent the views of Spine & Nerve.
    References:
1. Borsook D, Youssef AM, Simons L, Elman I, Eccleston C. When pain gets stuck: the evolution of pain chronification and treatment resistance. Pain. 2018;159(12):2421-2436. 
    2. Ossipov MH, Morimura K, Porreca F. Descending pain modulation and chronification of pain. Curr Opin Support Palliat Care. 2014 Jun;8(2):143-51.
    3. Morlion B, Coluzzi F, Aldington D, Kocot-Kepska M, Pergolizzi J, Mangas AC, Ahlbeck K, Kalso E. Pain chronification: what should a non-pain medicine specialist know? Curr Med Res Opin. 2018 Jul;34(7):1169-1178.
    4. International Association for the Study of Pain
    32 min

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We are physicians who practice pain management and physical medicine and rehabilitation, and believe that the main goal of practice is to improve the quality of life of our patients and communities. We will dive deep into the world of modern pain management to help healthcare providers and consumers understand various diagnoses, treatment options, and the changing landscape of pain management.