In the third segment of our interview with Hanna McElroy, we deconstruct the dynamic Enneagram to show that your personality isn’t a static point, but a moving map. We dive into the complexity of “wings”—the neighboring numbers that flavor your core type—and the mysterious growth and stress arrows that dictate how you behave when you’re thriving versus when you’re “not looking your prettiest”.

Hanna explains the evolving science of the Enneagram, discussing how modern experts like Beatrice Chestnut have expanded on traditional models to show that we can find both strength and struggle in our connection to other types. We also peel back the layers on the childhood wounds and core fears that lead us to build self-protective walls, and how understanding these survival strategies helps us manage ourselves better as adults.

Join us as we explore how a Type Five can find joy in the extroversion of a Seven, or how an Eight finds their best self by leaning into the helpfulness of a Two.

In this segment of our conversation with Hanna McElroy, we explore her personal evolution from a fourteen-year-old intuitive reading the 70s-style Aquarian deck to a professional who integrates astrology, sigils, and the Enneagram into her practice. Hanna explains why she views her work as “translation”—moving beyond just pulling cards to ensure a message hits the client’s heart over their head so they feel uniquely seen.

We also dive into the three centers of the Enneagram—the Gut, Heart, and Head—and how knowing a person’s center allows a reader to meet them exactly where they are, whether they are facing a spiritual crisis or a career shift. Hanna reveals why her Enneagram typing interviews often lead to healing tears, as she taps into childhood wounds and cracks people open to their optimal selves. Join us for a deep dive into how these systems of consciousness serve as a window into the soul and provide a roadmap for long-term growth.

In this second installment of our conversation with Hanna McElroy, we move beyond the basics to explore how the Enneagram helps us shift from unconscious zombies to self-aware individuals. We dive deep into the remaining archetypes, from the anxious, prepared Loyalist (Type Six) to the optimistic, fun-loving Enthusiast (Type Seven).

Hanna explains the fascinating concept of “wings”—the adjacent numbers we lean into to navigate the world—and why society often mistypes women as Type Twos due to traditional gender expectations of being “the helper”.

Whether you are a creative Type Four who feels misunderstood, a protective Type Eight ready to fight for the underdog, or a Type Nine Peacemaker who prefers to go with the flow, this episode offers a roadmap for understanding your innate nature and generational habits. Join us as we learn how to face our vices and heighten our consciousness to create a more balanced life.

In this episode, we sit down with Hanna McElroy, a seasoned Tarot reader and bookstore owner who has spent the last decade mastering the Enneagram, an ancient psychological and spiritual map. We dive into how this "system of consciousness raising" helps us identify our childhood wounds and core fears, offering a path to move past the self-protection mechanisms we built as children.

Hanna shares her fascinating journey of discovering her own type—moving from a perceived Type Three (The Achiever) to her true Type Eight (The Challenger)—and explains how understanding your type can deepen a Tarot reading.

Whether you are a curious Type Five investigator or a perfectionist Type One, join us to explore how these nine archetypes serve as a tool for humanity to face its shortcomings and elevate its virtues. Discover why combining these two modalities isn't cheating, but a way to help your personal growth truly flower.

In this insightful follow-up interview, Miriam Jacobs returns to share how she has spent the last year and a half going deep within herself to better serve her clients. She discusses the Wounded Healer archetype and the importance of understanding one’s own puncture wounds to create a relatable bridge for healing others. Explore how Miriam uses the structures of Tarot, astrology, and chakra line-ups to navigate a nonlinear path, moving away from intellectualized logic and toward the authentic authority of the body.

Join us for a conversation about transitions, the magic of synchronicity, and the slow leak of transformation that happens one layer at a time.

In this final segment, Miriam Jacobs brings the tarot to life through Tarot in Motion, a practice that transforms heady philosophy into a living, somatic experience. Discover how movement—whether it involves outrageous dance, simple hand gestures, or the use of costumes like capes and headpieces—helps practitioners step out of their comfort zones and into the wisdom of the cards. Miriam shares how her background in somatic dance and the power of seasonal rituals create a structure for personal and group evolution.

Join us to learn how the act of being witnessed can help you move underneath the surface to find authentic expression and balance.

In this fourth segment, Miriam Jacobs reveals the spiritual architecture of her system, mapping the Major Arcana to the upper chakras to bridge the gap between the physical and the ethereal worlds. Miriam also introduces her transformative practice, Tarot in Motion, sharing how movement can release stored trauma and stress by encouraging the body to open when it feels most protective to stay closed.

Whether you are a seasoned dancer or someone who feels uncoordinated, this segment offers a powerful invitation to move beyond intellectualizing and into a lived, authentic experience of the cards.

In this segment, Miriam Jacobs breaks down the intricate four-symbol system integrated into her deck, covering astrology, elements, and the Vedic chakras. She shares the unique backstory of how her book, Tarot and the Chakras, was published after her collage-style deck was initially turned down by a major publisher. We explore the specific physical associations of the suits, such as the Wands' connection to the ego and the solar plexus. Miriam also reveals a profound shift in perspective by linking the Swords and the air element directly to the heart chakra to help practitioners speak from a place of authenticity. Finally, learn how she uses these cards to identify when a person needs a different elemental energy to return to balance.

In this segment, Miriam Jacobs dives into the practical mechanics of energy work, revealing how she reads the "voice" of a client's energy before a single card is drawn. We explore the four pillars of Polarity Therapy—food, movement, touch, and the verbal component—and how these elements form the "container" for her somatic practice.

Discover why Miriam chose to rename traditional tarot suits to their elemental roots, like Fire and Earth, to help practitioners move out of their heads and into a state of resonance with the body’s wisdom.

Step into the world of Miriam Jacobs, a visionary artist and energy worker who transformed her intuitive gifts into a groundbreaking approach to healing. In this opening segment, Miriam shares her journey from the print shops of New York to the healing practices of California, revealing how a personal health crisis and a prophetic dream led her to bridge the gap between Tarot and Polarity Therapy. Learn how she synthesized the Vedic chakras, Ayurvedic elements, and the cards to create the first somatic tarot deck, offering a unique map for body-based wisdom.