[Host Nancy Showalter]
Hello everybody and welcome to our first episode in our “Spiritual Perspectives on Hot Topics” series. This is Part One: “How Did We Get from Our Pure Divine Estate to Where We are Today?”
I'm so excited about this series. I think we're going to cover some really neat things that you will like hearing.
I believe it's really fitting that we begin with the beginning, so to speak, by looking at how did we get from our pure divine estate to where we are now?
We were created in the divine image and likeness and we descended into the physical world to grow and externalize the God qualities and that unique divine purpose that is just our own. So, we have to wonder, what is our spiritual evolution?
We know what science tells us about Charles Darwin's evolutionary theory, but is that really the full picture? Does it explain our spiritual evolution? There are those of us who do not think that this is the case.
Today I'm very happy to welcome Mark Myers to the show. Mark's a researcher by profession and he's been putting his skills to use with his personal passion of researching the fascinating topic of spiritual cosmology and how humanity has lost track of its divine destiny.
Mark, welcome and thank you for being with us today.
[Guest Mark Myers]
It's great to be here, Nancy. I'm really excited and let's just go and try to expand our worldview as we do have a limited view as of the moment.
[Host Nancy Showalter]
Mark, tell us a little bit about yourself first before we begin and how you came to be involved in this exciting research.
[Guest Mark Myers]
Well, for the last 20-25 years I've been involved in medical research and cancer, integrative cancer care. I develop programs for patients by looking through the research and digging deep, so a lot of times I do a deep dive into a lot of things.
Also, for the last 30 or 35 years I've been tremendously interested in spirituality. So I've also done a deep dive in there. So I'm going to bring you some information that I've dug out, you know, from the archives, so to speak, of the Archives of the Ascended Masters of the obscure knowledge maybe of the planet. Let's go from there.
[Host Nancy Showalter]
Sounds great. Maybe we can start too by having you share a little bit with our listeners on what are the sources of your research?
[Guest Mark Myers]
Sure. Well, we can look at a lot of different resources. I mean, there's been so much spiritual material. There's been so many things that have been given over the years.
But I think basically, other than the Bible, which is an important source of work as you intimated in the beginning, you know, Genesis, you know, we were created and we came down. Well, actually, Genesis doesn't even begin at the beginning. Genesis begins in the middle. So we need to go back beyond that.
Let's look at the Bible. Let's look at the last 170 years of spiritual teachings that have really been brought forth from great beings, ascended masters, messengers, what you might call “secretaries” in this octave of higher octaves of light that can really bring forth true enlightenment to mankind.
Because truly today, we need to look at where we came from. Because if we don't know in the larger context of truly where we came from, how can we know where we're going and how we're going to develop?
[Host Nancy Showalter]
Well said. We know now, at least I've been talking about it, that the Aquarian Age that we're transitioning into is meant to be a Golden Age. Now, people might look at the world and wonder how is that going to happen?
So why don't you talk a little bit about, “What do we mean by Golden Age, and have we had previous Golden Ages on Earth? What did you find?
[Guest Mark Myers]
Well, to address the first question, first issue, how can we have a Golden Age? We need to know that that's locked in the mind of God and when we access that information, we can draw down that Golden Age. So we need to be quite optimistic about that.
But what is a Golden Age? Well, it says “gold” and “age.” It comes from gold. Gold is a substance, 24 karat gold. If you hold a piece in your hand, it's a conduit of the consciousness of higher octaves, of the Christ consciousness, of the yellow golden mind of God.
So that's why we had Golden Ages. It's where everybody was their own prophet, where they came forth and were able to draw forth peace and enlightenment, and we all lived under beautiful lifestyles and all that.
We didn't have wars. We didn't have this. We advanced mankind. We became enlightened. We developed personally, but we also developed as a group.
So, this is where we're headed. We're headed to the next Golden Age, and to be able to do that is the topic of today. We have to understand why we're in this darkness today, and there are different theories out there amongst different things that are proposed.
[Host Nancy Showalter]
Everyone talks about a Golden Age, or at least some do, and I think we need to keep in mind as you're talking that that Golden Age is going to come through us. It's not something magic that just drops from the sky.
Literally, we have to raise our consciousness. We have to be that Golden Age to really make that Golden Age manifest on this planet.
So why don't you tell us, have there been Golden Ages in your research?
[Guest Mark Myers]
Yeah, I think first, that's an excellent point, because there's a lot of kind of “new aginess,” if I can call it that, thinking that the astrology or the lining up of the planets is going to automatically precipitate something. Well, that's just an assistance. We are the ones that have to become that and bring forth that Golden Age.
Yes, according to spiritual sources, there have been many Golden Ages in the past. In fact, we started in Golden Ages long before recorded history, long before the Bible records man came forth in what's known as root races. Root races are groups of souls that God put together, you know, or brings forth for a certain group purpose.
These root races came to earth, they fulfilled their cycles, and they went back to God. In fact, there were three root races in the beginning. As I know you've talked about in the past, different rays and colors, Nancy, that each root race comes in with a different specific kind of design, a color, a blue color, a yellow color, illumination, different purpose, whatever. So, they came and they ascended back to the heart of God.
We had a problem in the fourth root race, and this is where we're going to talk about today. The fourth root race was doing fine until all of a sudden the Bible records what's known as the Great Rebellion, the Great Rebellion of Lucifer. We had an incredible catastrophe in this galaxy and surrounding galaxies, where angels fell as recorded in the Bible, and they were kicked out of heaven by the legions of Archangel Michael and his mighty legions.
It says in the Bible, “Woe to you, inhabitants of the earth,” because they came down here and this is the root of evil on our planet. It has nothing to do with us. We were manipulated and these fallen ones, fallen angels came down and disrupted our natural cycle of golden ages.
[Host Nancy Showalter]
But of course, our responsibility in that little drama was that we started to listen. We started to accept and absorb some of these attitudes of these fallen angels, and started shifting our vision away from our own individual divine identity, which is God within us, and God in the whole universe. That's how we started to perpetuate some of this evil and follow some of these.
[Guest Mark Myers]
Well, of course, this is our topic today. Our topic is that we have to know where we've been and how we've been manipulated so we can take responsibility and get our way out of this.
In legal terms today, ignorance of the law is no excuse. Well, we have no excuse either. We have to regain that God-given quality of illumination and understanding that we can move forward. Since the fourth root race, there have been scattered golden ages, but it always seems like when we create a golden age that these fallen ones come in and they somehow manipulate our minds again to be able to bring us down.
We had a golden age about 70,000 years ago in the Sahara, which was not a desert at that time. That golden age was brought down. We had golden ages on Atlantis about 35,000 years ago, where actually an embodiment of Jesus led 10 million people into that golden age.
Flames burned there that were physical, that don't burn today in temples. Also, the last golden age was probably about 16,000 to 12,000 years ago in Atlantis, and this was brought down and recorded in the Bible as the flood of Noah. This was the final golden age.
Since then, we could call that pre-Diluvian history because we don't have much recorded history from that point. Even shortly after that, the Bible only picks up maybe 5,000 or 6,000 years ago, and it's scant at that.
We have to understand that we have a very long history on this planet. We've been here maybe for a million or more years, and we've evolved and evolved and devolved and devolved, and we have to understand that so we can move forward and bring in the golden age.
[Host Nancy Showalter]
Right. We have a lot of different evolutions on this planet. We can see that. We can see we have everything from the master mastering life, and the meditating in the cave, or the spiritual person who's evolved and enlightened to those who are committing some pretty heinous crimes against humanity—and everything in between.
So, you want to talk a little bit about how did these evolutions, how did we get to this place on this planet?
[Guest Mark Myers]
Well, yes, it's true. We have, I like to term in the larger terms, several cultures on this planet. I mean, Earth is a crossroads at the moment.
We have evolutions from all over the place, including a planet that was once in our solar system that was once destroyed called Maldek, and souls came from there who actually blew up their own planet. So they have no compunction about trying to blow up our planet.
But I say we have two basic cultures, and Jesus tried to let us know this. Jesus was a master of great insight. I mean, he has a true spiritual understanding, and he gave us the tares and the wheat. This is a parable showing that there are two cultures here, the tares and the wheat.
Tares in the days of Jesus was a plant that got sown sometimes amongst the wheat, and it grew amongst the wheat, and its roots intertwined among the wheat, and you couldn't pull them out without killing the wheat in those days. It was a plant that was poisonous, so you couldn't eat it, so it destroyed a whole crop. So think of our planet today as this wheat field where we have sown all amongst us these tares and wheat.
What's basically going on, Jesus said that it was the day of the harvest where the tares will be all bundled up and will be taken away and burned, and that will be the day that we can move forward in a greater light. Well, we have a role in that, of course, but look where we're at today.
We're at the harvest. We're at the point where those who want to see clearly can see these “cultures” of these dark ones who are out there, who are constantly against the light, and you can see them. They need to be taken down by our prayers, by our calls, by our actions. We need to see the true thing that is going on in our culture today.
[Host Nancy Showalter]
This has been so prophesied, not just by Jesus, but by many, many masters, many non-masters, maybe just typical people and throughout time. I mean, Nostradamus, Edgar Cayce, we have a number of different sources.
Tell us a little bit more about your sources from the ascended masters and that realm of where that—a lot of your research is coming from.
[Guest Mark Myers]
Well, I like to trace my research history, other than, more ancient resources, you know, which you can look in Hinduism and Buddhism and the Bible and, ancient religions of the world. But I like the ascended master teachings of the last roughly 170 years that we can trace our lineage back to Theosophy, Helen Blavatsky, and, you know, she was working with masters Moya, Kuthumi, you know, Saint Germain and different masters, and then those lineages sprouted out into different things.
There's Agni Yoga. There was the I AM movement with Guy Ballard and his wife, you know, who brought the knowledge of the I AM and Saint Germain's teachings to us. Then it moved into things like the Bridge to Freedom, which also had messages from the masters. Then Summit Lighthouse and Church Universal and Triumphant and if we go through this lineage, we can find great teachings.
The masters don't usually repeat themselves. So if you look at just one of these, you're limiting yourself. You can go back and look through these different things and find all these threads that we're talking about today. So this is what I've basically done, Nancy, is I've taken all these threads of information from this past 170 years, and I've tried to weave it into a reliable narrative of the light.
[Host Nancy Showalter]
You know, going back to the topic of Maldek, where you talked about the planet that actually destroyed itself, when we understand probably through nuclear explosion. We're not sure, I guess.
[Guest Mark Myers]
Well, through some great source of energy, nuclear, or maybe more advanced than nuclear. But the bottom line is, anybody can go to a planetary ephemeris of the solar system, and you can see that there's a huge asteroid belt between Mars and Jupiter. If you look at Bode's Law, which is the law of the distance of planets from the sun, that shows that that would be a place that there would be a planet. So we know that there was a planet there one day, and now it's just a pile of rubble. So, it was destroyed.
[Host Nancy Showalter]
Right. And some of those evolutions came here. What, about a third of them came here? The Earth opened their arms saying, “Come on, and we'll help you evolve.”
But I think as it turns out, those from Maldek were pretty advanced technologically, more advanced than here on Earth, and actually taught the evolutions of Earth, the ways of war, that were not here before, as you described.
[Guest Mark Myers]
Well, all that information is absolutely correct. I mean, now we're talking about when we say they came here, we're talking about their souls came here. All of us understand we have a soul and a consciousness.
Cosmic councils, which are higher councils, decided that about a third of the Maldekians were actually redeemable. Their souls, you know, had moved enough towards the light that, you know, they wouldn't be put what through the Bible is known as the second death, where the soul is actually re-assimilated into God, it has no identity anymore.
So yes, they came to Earth. But the cosmic councils were expecting that the fourth root race, as we talked about before, which was on Lumeria, ancient continent in the Pacific, huge continent, 5,000 square miles or something out there where Hawaii is and all the way through the Pacific.
They came there and the cosmic councils were expecting the innocent souls of Earth, the fourth root race, to tutor and mentor these, I'm going to call them laggards. The reason we call them laggards is because their consciousness is lagging behind spiritually. They're more focused on material gains than spiritual development.
When they came here, a great, great miscalculation happened. Instead of the innocent children of the fourth root race here mentoring them, they became in charge and they took over and we had all kinds of devastation going on on the Earth and all kinds of horrific things that ended up in actually the sinking of the continent of Lumeria because of all the desecrations that went on from these laggards from Maldek.
[Host Nancy Showalter]
Then we have the dynamics, as you mentioned before, of Lucifer, which was a very high level archangel in heaven, who rebelled against God thinking he can do it better and took a lot of angels with him. So these fallen angels, when they fell, they fell to the Earth, meaning they incarnated on the Earth, just as you're talking about the Maldekians incarnated on the Earth, and they, they started their evolution here. So we have, and you know, we have in the Bible, it talks about Lucifer, Satan, all of those that are rebelling against God.
They're really rebelling against their own nature, because there's only one Source, one God, we all came from there. But when you cut off your own connection to your Source, to your inner identity of God, then you have to go find that energy and light somewhere else to keep sustaining your life cycle and everyone has a life cycle.
Many people say, why doesn't God do this? Why doesn't God do that? Well, we were given dominion here, and God doesn't interfere with our free will. We were given dominion and free will. Every lifestream, every one of us has a cycle and we can create positive or negative. It's up to us.
[Guest Mark Myers]
Absolutely. It's absolutely up to us and this is the underlying thesis of what we're talking about today. We need to take dominion over the Earth.
But what you're talking about is a point that predates Maldek. This is known as the Great Rebellion and this is the point that's actually recorded before creation in the Bible. It predates Genesis, but it is recorded in the New Testament in the book of Revelations, which most people realize is very cryptic. But it talks about how these angels fell.
It talks about the Great Rebellion. And basically, these angels fell through ego. They thought that they shouldn't have to worship the Most High. They could do it better. They fell and they created havoc throughout our entire galaxy, and it's been many millions of years.
Eventually, they came to Earth, and they probably came to Maldek. They're probably behind the blowing up of Maldek there too. Although, you know, who knows where that is, that would be a good speculation. But they definitely came to Earth and this is the battle we face today.
So many practicing Satanists in our, in our nation, in our world and they're becoming more and more to the front. You're seeing more and more articles written about them. This is what we're up against.
Satanism is a Luciferian Great Rebellion religion, where they basically invert everything. Everything of God is inverted. So, what is good is bad, what is light is dark, so on and so forth. The whole purpose is not only to destroy us as children of light, but to suck from us that very light that they can't access, because that light has been cut off from them because of their rebellion, as you had said earlier.
[Host Nancy Showalter]
Yes, exactly. So you really have to wonder though, how can our history be so covered over, so hidden in our culture today?
[Guest Mark Myers]
It's because that's the way they've wanted it. We had open wars, when you go back to the Bible and look at Babylon and Nimrod the Great and what was going on in those days. That's the culture that we're up against, that evil, but they've covered their tracks.
In fact, the fallen ones today, and the laggards today, and these evil ones actually trace their lineage back to Cain. They know their history, they know where they came from, but they've obscured ours, because how do you control someone? You cover up their past, they have no idea who they are, their God dominion, their power, their authority, then you're covering up what they can really do and what they can really be. So we have to discover that.
This is the battle that we're facing today, is to uncover, unearth that ancient rivalry, that battle that was going on, that these fallen ones have covered up, especially since the sinking of Atlantis, where we really outright fell them. We were outright battling them and we knew a little more of what we were battling up against.
But in terms of uncovering and unearthing, which is a term I use, archaeologists have done this, actually. They've gone down deeper and deeper, and you keep finding that you're going back and back and back to lesser and lesser civilizations, until you finally reach the caveman, which was the lowest point on earth.
But what's been covered up is when you go deeper and deeper strata underneath the caveman, you start to uncover more and more advanced civilizations, until you actually get to more advanced civilizations than we have today. This is something that's been covered up.
So if we go to unearth all these things, we can see everywhere that we've been lied to. It's like standing in the middle of a great lie that's coming from you, 360 degrees all around you. You have to pierce and push your head through that lie and see what is really the truth, that where we came from and why we're being lied to, we're being manipulated.
When we understand that we have the authority that God has given us, the scepter of power, that we have dominion over the earth, and we need to reclaim that, and we need to call to the higher octaves, to the ascended masters, to the angels of light, to almighty God, to the Lord Jesus Christ, to descend and assist us. We can do that, and we can overcome these fallen ones, and we can bring in the golden age. We have to see this optimism and this understanding.
[Host Nancy Showalter]
You know, there's this big argument between creation theory and evolution. Yes, we were created from our source, and we were made in that image and likeness of God, male and female, as the Bible states. But we obviously evolve. All of life evolves, even after we ascend permanently back to our God Source. God is forever transcending Himself.
My understanding is that the era of the caveman is actually the lowest point to which we descended after we fell. Now we are making our way back up to our true God estate, and that is where the evolution comes in. So to me, both creation theory and evolution are real, and manifesting in our universe at this time.
[Guest Mark Myers]
Well, again, Nancy, we've been lied to. You know, we basically, certain facts have been fit to make this theory of evolution so that we can think that we, our ancestors, were some green slime. We weren't created by God, and we have no divine heritage and no sense of divinity within us, that we're just basically some chemicals in a soup that came up. So this is all to subvert us.
The caveman was a result of the fall of Lemuria in the ancient days when Lemuria went down, I don't know, 12,000 years ago or a little more. When that continent went down, we reached our lowest point in evolution.
In fact, on the last days of Lemuria, there were, human sacrifice and cannibalism going on. In fact, there are still remnants of that in the Pacific. There's cannibals there on South Sea Islands, and this is a remnant of the culture of ancient Atlantis.
So we had our divinity. We went down to a lowest point, and that's where the caveman came from. So don't buy into this.
Evolution is a creation of God. We evolve. It's an important part of our being.
For instance, if you move to a higher altitude, say you live at sea level for most of your life, and all of a sudden you move into the mountains, 8, 10, 12,000 feet, your blood actually evolves. It creates certain molecules in there that capture oxygen more tightly. So it's a process of evolution.
You didn't have that before. You went up and you evolved. Well, God created these processes. Evolution is just part of the creative process, but we don't look at it as being that that's where we came from. That is not our origins.
[Host Nancy Showalter]
Exactly, exactly. We shouldn't be divided over this theory of evolution or the theory of creation, because in reality, they're both, there's truth to both of them. I mean, we know that the very words of God, I AM, is when individualized identity within the One Source of God comes into existence.
That's us, the I AM presence. Once we can say I AM, we have consciousness. There's no other evolution on the planet. Many life forms might have great intelligence, but none other than the human can say “I AM.” With that understanding and consciousness of self and free will, we can choose to be something different.
There's no other evolution on the planet—animals, they're subject to their nature, whether they're extremely intelligent or whatever, but they are subject to their nature. Man can say “I AM” and man can create by drawing forth.
I've talked about this in other sessions. If you want to go back and listen, if you haven't heard them. The I AM Presence, the I AM consciousness is the divine within us. When we follow words after the words “I AM,” we are calling upon that divine part of ourself to create that condition in our world.
[Guest Mark Myers]
Well, if you think about it, if you think about the Bible and Moses, when he went up on the hill and he saw the fire of God burning in the bush that didn't burn, he asked God his name and what did God say? He said, I AM that I AM. He said, I AM is my name. If we think about this, it's a verb. It's a verb. It's not a noun. I AM is an active concept.
I just wanted to get that out, but the main point is that we were given dominion. We have authority on the earth. If we subjugate that authority to others, fallen ones or dark ones, then we've given them our power.
The only one that can give them their power is you. So we need to take back that power for good, for bringing in a golden age. And that's how that golden age will manifest.
[Host Nancy Showalter]
Very good. I think we've exhausted that topic for the moment, but I want to thank you so much for being here today because I think this has been a great discussion. I'd like to invite you to come back for our next week so that we can talk more about how did we get to where we are today because what happened after that fall, and all the way down, and to the history of the earth.
Because we know there was a time when this planet was so void of light that the cosmic councils were just going to allow it to self-destruct because there was no one involved on the planet. No one embodied that had enough light to sustain that.
I'd like to take that up next week, that whole story.
[Guest Mark Myers]
Okay, that'd be great. I think that the next, that's the next logical step. I mean, we need to see where we're going to go. We've talked about some of our origins. Now let's talk about where we're going to go to.
[Host Nancy Showalter]
Right. And again, this is foundational to understand some of the social issues that we're facing today. I want to take up, as we go along in the weeks, because we like Mark is saying, we have to understand where we've come from, who we are and where we're going.
That's the basic context by which we can look at some of the issues, from a spiritual perspective, that we're facing today. Now we know we have the teachings from the Bible, the teachings from some of the books that didn't make it into the Bible, the official Bible, plus the teachings of the Ascended Masters and a lot of science that's coming forth at this time.
[Guest Mark Myers]
And don't forget Eastern teachings as well.
[Host Nancy Showalter]
Well, the world religions.
[Guest Mark Myers]
Right.
[Host Nancy Showalter]
Yes, exactly. We are going to be talking about some of the various concepts of the world religions. So please join us next week for this amazing discussion.
Thank you so much, Mark, for being with us and sharing your research and knowledge. It's been a great joy.
[Guest Mark Myers]
Pleasure to be here and peace to all.
[Host Nancy Showalter]
We'll see you next week. Until then, keep an open mind, a generous heart and a powerful spirit.
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