In this Risky Business News sponsor interview Tom Uren asks Material Security’s Director of Security Chris Long about what ittakes to run a “modern” phishing workflow. Chris thinks there are opportunities to take identify and take advantage of “phishing superusers”, employees who are a cut above when it comes to uncovering phishing and other malicious activities. Phishing is also the “point of the spear” for defenders — it provides an entry point into attacker activities that enable all sorts of potential detection opportunities.