Bailee and Ashley dig into the evangelical fixation on demonic activity — from the fear of Ouija boards and Harry Potter to the late-night youth group sermons about “opening spiritual doors.” They explore how a fixation on evil, possession, and “spiritual warfare” created a culture where fear was framed as discernment and curiosity was cast as danger.

They also reflect on how growing up in that environment shaped their understanding of morality, control, and imagination — and what it means to reclaim a sense of wonder without the constant threat of the devil lurking behind every pop song, yoga pose, and super bowl halftime show.

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