Today's show features two guests crucial to both the present and future of Ukraine: Yuriy Ryzhenkov, CEO of Metinvest Holding, the firm that owns the Azovstal steel plant in Mariupol currently surrounded by Russian forces; and Odile Renaud-Basso, the president of the European Bank for Reconstruction & Development (EBRD), which was established to help post-Soviet states fight for democracy. 

Also on today's show: Shanghai citizens push back against China's controversial Covid lockdown, and the latest developments in Ukraine from our team of reporters on the ground.

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