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Today's guest is Mike Farris. Mike graduated from Texas Tech University's School of Law, then went into private practice focusing on commercial litigation and entertainment law, in particular in the movie and publishing industries. He is an adjunct professor at the University of Texas at Arlington in the political science department, where he teaches constitutional law and entertainment law. He's also written 19 books, both fiction and nonfiction, including historical true crime. Mike is here to discuss his new book, which he co-wrote with Paul Heckman. The book chronicles Paul's years-long search for his biological brother, who he never knew, John Wesley Kearns III. John served in the US Army before joining the CIA and was killed in action during the Secret War in Laos in December 1972.
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Today Justin sits down with Geoff Shepard. Geoff graduated from Harvard Law with honors in 1969 and was selected as a White House fellow shortly thereafter. He then worked at the Department of the Treasury until he was hired in September 1970 to work for John Ehrlichman, assistant to the president for domestic affairs. Geoff worked at the White House for the next five years, including all of President Nixon's second term, the entire Watergate affair, and the beginning of the Ford administration. Afterwards, he went to work as an attorney in the insurance industry, where he remained until he retired in 2011. Since then, Geoff has written three books on the Nixon presidency and Watergate. He's here to discuss his third and newest book, "The Nixon Conspiracy: Watergate and the Plot to Remove the President," which was published in 2021.
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Today Justin talks with Miles Hargrove. Miles has worked for more than 20 years behind the scenes in the film industry as a cinematographer, editor, and camera operator, including on major feature films such as The Last Castle and the Harry Potter series. But long before his start in films, Miles was living with his family in Cali, Colombia, where his father, Thomas Hargrove, worked as a freelance journalist for the agriculture industry. In 1994, Thomas was kidnapped by FARC rebels and held for nearly a year. His wife, children, and friends banded together to negotiate with his captors for his release. Afterwards, their ordeal became the basis for the film Proof of Life, starring Russell Crowe and Dave Morse. Miles filmed everything that year using their home video camera, which he produced as the 2020 documentary Miracle Fishing: Kidnapped in Colombia.
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Today Justin talks with Elsa Johnson. Elsa is a student at Stanford University currently in her senior year. She is majoring in International Relations and East Asian Studies and is fluent in Mandarin Chinese. She is also the former managing editor of The Stanford Review. Two years ago, Elsa was approached online by someone she thought was a fellow student at Stanford. Those contacts quickly took a surprising and even dangerous turn as she realized she'd been identified and targeted by the Chinese Communist Party, which had a firm foothold on campus at Stanford. She worked closely with the FBI, wrote about those experiences in The Stanford Review, and even testified before Congress about foreign espionage activities on university campuses. Elsa is here discuss those experiences and how China has spent years infiltrating universities across the country.
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Today's guest is Dr. Jason Bell. Jason is a professor of philosophy at the University of New Brunswick, who has served as a Fulbright professor in Germany and taught at universities in Belgium, the United States, and Canada. He's here to discuss one of the least known and most important deception operations of World War II, when three OSS officers parachuted into Hungary with one goal in mind: to be taken prisoner and interrogated by German forces.
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Today Justin talks with Dr. Ahana Datta Fasel. Ahana graduated from University College London with a PhD and is the former cyber chief for the Financial Times media group in London. She has also held senior roles in the United Kingdom government, including with the Ministry of Justice, the Cabinet Office, and the National Cybersecurity Centre. Her editorials have been published in The Financial Times and Columbia Journalism Review. She's here to discuss her book, Full Stack Spies: Cyber Espionage in the Age of US-China Competition, which is available now from Hurst Publishers. In it, she covers the history of cyber espionage among the great powers, how it is being used right now, and what to expect in the near future.
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This week Justin talks with Tom Pecora. Tom spent 24 years as a security officer with the Central Intelligence Agency. He served in hotspots all over the world, including Somalia, Iraq, the Philippines, and Pakistan. Tom was the chief of security for CIA operations in Iraq in 2004 and 2005, and later the deputy chief of security for the Counterterrorism Center. He's been awarded the Intelligence Star and the Career Intelligence Medal. He's here to discuss his career with CIA, which he wrote about in his book.
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Today, Justin welcomes back Tim Spicer. Tim served for 20 years in the British Army, where he rose to the rank of lieutenant colonel and saw active service in Northern Ireland, The Falklands Campaign, The Gulf War, and the Balkans, as well as serving in the Far East, Cyprus, and Germany. This is Tim's third appearance on the podcast. Today, he's back to discuss the story of Brian Franks, one of the original officers of the Special Air Service who served behind enemy lines during World War II and who continued to support British covert operations long after the war ended
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This week Justin sits down with Joseph Gelman. Joe served for three years in the Israeli army as a paratrooper. He's also worked as a private consultant on political campaigns, speech writing, government relations, international marketing, and as a columnist. He's here today to discuss his book: Confidential. It's the story of Arnon Milchan, who went from the owner of a struggling chemical business in Israel to a major procurer of advanced weaponry, an agent of Israel's Lakam Bureau, and later a billionaire Hollywood film producer.
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Today, Justin talks with Gene Coyle. Gene graduated from Indiana University in Bloomington with a Bachelor's degree in 1973, followed by a Master's degree in 1974. He then joined the Central Intelligence Agency, where he served for 30 years, including in six overseas assignments. After retiring from CIA, Gene returned to Indiana University as an adjunct professor of intelligence studies. He has also written a series of spy novels in recent years. He's here to discuss his assignment to Moscow in the mid-1980s, where he took part in one of the most high-risk, high-reward operations of the entire Cold War, tapping underground communications cables in Moscow while dodging surveillance by the KGB, for which he received the CIA's Intelligence Medal of Merit.
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