Normal Seriously Risky Biz correspondent Tom Uren is on leave this week, so there’s some lunatics-running-the-asylum energy in the episode. Patrick Gray wrote this week’s newsletter, and Adam Boileau asks him what exactly we are to do with Microsoft? They’re so big, and their security posture of late has us all sobbing into our Azure dashboards. Pat advocates for less carrot, and several varieties of stick.

They also talk through where ransomware disruption is going to have to head next. What more creative, less … uh… law-and-order options do we have for imposing cost on actors in pariah states?