Tom Uren and Patrick Gray talk about a SentinelOne report about how it is constantly targeted by both cybercriminal and state-backed hackers. Security firms are high-value targets, so constant attacks on them are the new normal.

They also discuss an article that calls Signal “a kind of dark matter of American politics and media”. Many policy discussions occur on the app, and this explains the Trump administration’s extensive use of the app.

This episode is also available on Youtube.