Tom Uren and Patrick Gray talk about how Telegram took down the two largest ever criminal marketplaces recently. They used Telegram for all their communications and had collectively sold over USD$30 billion in illicit products. The pair discuss why Telegram is now cooperating with authorities after historically being reluctant and whether this assistance will continue.

They also discuss how Meta is awash with scam advertisements and how Chinese mobile app encryption is suspiciously awful.

This episode is also available on Youtube.