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Low-Cost, High-Impact CX Improvements

The Power of Language:

  • Transform "I can't" into "How can we"
  • Shift from "I have to" to "We get to"
  • Being "impeccable with your word" (inspired by The Four Agreements)
  • Words trigger emotional responses that shape customer perception
Getting CX Buy-In Across Organizations

The Alignment Problem:

  • CX initiatives fail when metrics aren't shared across departments
  • Success came when executives adopted the same CX metrics as the CX team
  • Without shared goals, customer insights get shelved with "we'll get to it later"

The Pilot Program Strategy:

  • Start small before asking for big budgets
  • Show proof of concept with intentional, measurable pilots
  • Use success to rally and align different areas of the company

Real Example - CX Day Success:

  • Introduced first-ever CX Day celebration at 145-year-old engineering company
  • Started small despite skepticism
  • Now an annual tradition that continues after her departure
Rethinking CX Metrics

Beyond Traditional Measurements:

  • NPS and effort scores are starting points, not endpoints
  • "Satisfaction" is no longer good enough (it's the equivalent of "fine")
  • New focus: Emotional altitude across every touchpoint

The Emotional Impact:

  • Brains constantly cycle between thinking and feeling
  • Emotions create lasting imprints that shape brand perception
  • Research shows: 12 positive experiences needed to overcome 1 negative
  • Measure emotional highs to identify gaps and successes

The Four Rs of CX Impact:

  • Revenue
  • Retention
  • Reputation
  • Referrals
The Future of Contact Centers

Human + AI Integration:

  • Smart companies intentionally map where humans add value vs. where AI should handle interactions
  • The answer is "both/and" not "either/or"
  • Critical: Validate designs with real customers, not just internal teams

The Contact Center Superpower:

  • Contact center teams speak to more customers in a week than other departments do in a year
  • This proximity to customers gives agents unique power to be organizational change agents
  • Voice of customer insights should inform product development, marketing messaging, and more

Words Matter in the AI Era:

  • Example: Website offering "24/7 support, our guides are happy to help you"
  • "Guides" for both humans and AI feels impersonal
  • Naming and framing still matters
The Power of Customer Voice

The 10-Minute Video Story: A contact center leader captured customer feedback about a failed new product. At an executive meeting, he played a 10-minute compilation of customer complaints.

  • The CEO's initial advisor said it was a career-ending mistake
  • The CEO walked out during the video
  • Result: CEO returned and said it was "the best 10 minutes anybody's ever played" and named him employee #1
  • Customer voice changed the company's trajectory

The Validation Imperative:

  • Internal perspective isn't enough
  • Customer validation must be iterative, not one-time
  • Can't use internal team as proxy for outside voice
  • Both internal knowledge AND customer validation matter
The Fundamental C-Suite Challenge

When C-suite leaders aren't aligned in their meetings, misalignment trickles down through the entire organization. This is the root problem preventing effective CX implementation.

Notable Stories

The Morgan & Morgan Tattoo Story: Leadership promised to get company logo tattoos if the team hit an unprecedented conversion rate goal. When they achieved it, 40 leaders got matching tattoos - four tattoo artists came in for the day. The question became: "Is your brand tattoo-worthy?"

Stacey's Podcast Origin: Bought her first microphone for under $50, then waited six months before taking it out of the box due to fear. That mic ignited her journey to intentionally sharing her voice through podcasting.

Living Podcasting: At the conference, Stacey pulled out her mic to record a 10-minute session where Amas (who has Parkinson's) gave direct advice to her relative with a similar condition - creating immediate, personal value rather than secondhand communication.

Takeaways for Contact Center Leaders
  1. Language shapes reality - Small word changes create emotional shifts in customer experience
  2. Demand metric alignment - CX can't succeed unless executives share the same measurements
  3. Start with pilots - Prove value small-scale before requesting major investment
  4. Leverage your proximity to customers - Use it to become the organizational glue and change agent
  5. Validate everything with real customers - Internal assumptions aren't enough
  6. Map the human-AI journey intentionally - Design where each adds value, then test with customers
  7. Bring customer voice to leadership - Sometimes the most powerful thing is making them listen directly
  8. Average isn't acceptable - Move beyond satisfaction to creating emotional highs
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