What does it actually take to grow a business without getting caught up in everyone else's definition of success?
In Episode 15 of Standing on Business, Ben sits down with Holly Conti, Managing Partner of Full Swing Public Relations, to talk about entrepreneurship, intentional growth, public relations, marketing strategy, and the lessons that only come from building a business yourself.
Full Swing Public Relations works with service-based businesses across the country, with a strong presence in Central New York and Boise, Idaho. Holly joined the company after leaving a stable career and, alongside her business partner, helped triple revenue year over year before reaching seven figures in their third year.
Holly shares one of the biggest lessons from that journey: trust yourself and take intentional risks. Growth rarely feels comfortable while it's happening, and the challenges that come with building a company aren't necessarily signs that you're doing something wrong. Often, they're the next problems you need to learn how to solve.
The conversation also dives into a major question for modern businesses: are you investing in marketing because it actually serves your business, or simply because someone told you that you should?
Holly and Ben discuss the role of PR, social media, paid media, organic content, employees vs. contractors, managing overhead, measuring marketing results, and why there is no universal framework for growing a company.
They also explore the untapped potential in Central New York and why smaller, highly relevant audiences can often be far more valuable to a business than chasing massive follower counts.
In this episode:
• Building Full Swing Public Relations to seven figures
• Trusting yourself as an entrepreneur
• Why growth is supposed to feel uncomfortable
• Employees vs. contractors
• Growing without unnecessary overhead
• The real purpose of public relations
• PR vs. social media
• Why businesses waste money on the wrong marketing
• Choosing marketing channels based on strategy
• Why follower count isn't everything
• Building trust and authority with your audience
• The growing business and creative community in Central New York
• Building a business around what actually works for you
At the end of the day, Holly's philosophy is simple: forget blindly following "best practices." Understand your client, understand your data, know where you want to go, and build a strategy specifically around that.
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