Amanda Larson and Aimee Mateo talk about building health technology in the Philippines. HEAL Hub is an app that helps local health workers stay up to date on training and the materials they need. But the health workers aren’t who you think they are: in many areas, health workers are on average 60 years old, and handing them a smart phone is not going to immediately translate into results, no matter how good the app is. Amy says the biggest change she would make is to start earlier designing WITH health workers, to understand what they need, what the Ministry of Health requires, and what kinds of examples will make a difference for them. Their biggest goal now is to figure out how the tool can integrate into the health system so it can last for the long haul.