It's the final episode of Start Up! Johnny Lieu is moving on after coming in every week to talk tech, and Lucy Smith is wrapping up as host of Up For It after two stellar years behind the mic. In their final chat, Johnny and Lucy discussed the launch of a brand new app called Taxify that is set to compete with Uber, as well as the acquisition of everyone's favourite music-identification app Shazam by tech giant Apple.

Johnny Lieu joined Lucy Smith to chat about how Instagram is chock full of animal pictures, but now the social network is cracking down on selfies that might be considered exploitation. 25 years ago the first text message was sent, so Johnny and Lucy also discussed how, since then, the ways we’ve chatted using our phones have changed quite a bit.

Lucy and Johnny talked about the furore over 'pay to win' games, which have people so mad that the government is considering labelling them as gambling. They also looked at net neutrality debates in the USA, and what they could mean for Australia.