Is there a secret of life? Contemplatives of many stripes suggest it surround cultivating a kind of trust and openness that endures through the hardest of times. Dave Schmelzer dives into wisdom on this from the most optimistic of contemplatives, Julian of Norwich (C.S. Lewis and Thomas Merton both said she was their go-to contemplative teacher). Julian lived through the bubonic plague and yet came out of it with a remarkable trust that others around her didn't have.


Mentioned on this podcast:

Julian of Norwich: Wisdom in a Time of Pandemic and Beyond, by Matthew Fox

Zen and the Art of Happiness, by Chris Prentiss