This episode Mark gets too interview and talk with CVH, the ESL community manager from Bethesda. If you care about TESL and are wondering about the meta and the games future this episode is a must listen. They talk about CVH’s history with gaming that brought him to Bethesda, the masters series, QuakeCon, a ton of stuff about what goes into making a digital card game, helpful and unhelpful feedback, and the bright future for TESL.