Marc is finally winning the war on support and has time to ship improvements to PowerImporter. Matt has been interviewing lots of developers and shares some of the things he’s learned. The guys discuss interview tactics and the consequences of finding customers who aren’t a perfect fit.

Matt has been doing lots of customer interviews and learning a lot about developers doing remote work. Marc has had enough of the support grind and is figuring out what opportunities to say no to. The guys bond over a mutual distaste for the typical FAANG interview process.

Marc had another support heavy week and is looking for ways to ease his support burden so he can maximize time building. Matt is interviewing every developer in his network and hungry for more. The guys discuss doing customer discovery, the demands of social media and staying authentic while being a good community member.

Marc is dealing with affiliate programs for his soon to be announced side project. Matt is experiencing a flurry of activity around consulting and trying to finally finish it off. The guys discuss The Mom Test and have a coaching session around Matt’s growing fear of talking with people to do customer discovery and Marc's desire to create space to celebrate his wins.

Marc is gearing up for a side project to help market PowerImporter and is trying to sort out referrals. Matt is bad at taking vacation and trying to figure out how to rest while being in a holding pattern. The guys discuss ramifications of GDPR and what remote work will look like post-pandemic.

Marc is investigating side projects as additional offerings for Webflow users and thinking about a new marketing project. Matt is shutting down fbars.app and is taking a vacation, contemplating what is next for him. The guys discuss affiliate programs and how to tackle reading books.

Marc is taking a break from marketing to do product development and loving it. Matt is thinking what to do in the next few months after his consulting finishes up and he decides what to focus on next. The guys discuss playbooks and how to not repeat past mistakes.

Matt and Marc are both feeling burnt out and are trying to figure out how to plan for and get some rest when global pandemics rob them of their usual healthy habits. With summer coming, there's a big opportunity to recover from this long year.

Matt finished his initial Facebook ads run and has lots of thoughts about how it went and what he learned. Marc is continuing with copywriting but is having a hard time finding people to hire to help him. The guys try to figure out what a meaningful vacation looks like as the weather improves for summer.

Marc and Matt attended Microconf remote last week and thoroughly enjoyed themselves. This episode is a recap of their experience, and ideas for how to apply some of the takeaways.