Vladi and Fritz, the recruitment connoisseurs, the human resources reformers, the people and culture kings...join me for an honest, straight up and straight forward exchange about their experiences of staffing start ups and managing the processes of hiring to firing in Berlin.

We also move off script to talk about discrimination and cultural differences around the world.

The guys don't pull any punches and it's straight hitting, without going below the belt. All in all a refreshing chat and wonderful to get back into a conversation with these extremely cool and intelligent guys.

Thank you boys for joining me today!

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PS. The transcript has been generated automatically and does not always reflect what has been said with 100% accuracy. I hope however that it will still provide some clarity on the content.