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Integral scholar and Exostudies pioneer Sean Esbjörn-Hargens joins Terry to explore an integral approach to conspiracy theories and "exo realities" — including the anomalous phenomena that challenge our current models of reality. Sean begins by sharing an illuminating series of wise guidelines for navigating our post-truth conspiracy-theory-filled culture. Then, he and Terry build upon our recent episode with Jeffrey Kripal by considering the strange territory of anomalous phenomena in greater detail — what's "real" about them, what makes it possible to experience them, how they require our scientific frameworks to evolve, and how increasing public awareness might serve as a catalyst for moving society into wiser structures of consciousness. As committed spiritual practitioners, they also consider the potential risks of becoming fixated on fascinating phenomena, and how we might integrate them without letting them distract us from the nondual heart and ground of Being.

Sean Esbjörn-Hargens is a leader in the application of integrative thinking to leader development and organizational design, and has made significant contributions to the fields of integral ecology, integral business, integral education, and integral research. Sean created and hosted the four Integral Theory Conferences and founded MetaIntegral — a social impact network that supports change leaders around the world in applying integrative principles. Most recently, in 2018, he founded the Exo Studies Institute, pioneering an integral approach to anomalous phenomena including UFOs/ETs. Sean has been a long-term practitioner of Tibetan Buddhism, A. H. Almaas' Diamond Heart, and Celtic Christianity. He has published and edited numerous articles and books, and his recent article on non-human intelligences is titled Our Wild Kosmos! Currently, Sean is the Dean of Integral Education at the California Institute for Human Science where he also serves as Program Director for two integral PhD programs.

Here are some of the questions Sean and Terry explore in this episode:

• What are Sean's 16 ways of practicing wise responses to conspiracy theories and those who believe them?
• What emotional and cognitive capacities does it take to "hang out in the unknown" instead of jumping to conclusions?
• What exactly are "exo studies?" Why are they important? Can they catalyze a major shift in human consciousness and the practice of science?
• Which 10 recent events — from New York Times bombshell articles to Pentagon admissions — have led to a new widespread legitimization of UFO and ET studies?
• What are the 3 major "ontological realms" of anomalous phenomena? Can they be experienced and understood in our ordinary waking state of consciousness, or do we have to open to different modes of knowing in order to experience them fully?
• Can spiritual practitioners explore and integrate exo realities without becoming fascinated and distracted from the conscious divine reality from which they arise?

Sean's 16 Guidelines for Practicing with Conspiracy Theories

1. REALIZE THAT WE ALL ARE CONSPIRACY THEORISTS: Keep in mind that we are all are conspiracy theorists of one strip or another – we have strong biological, cognitive, and social-cultural tendencies that predispose us towards conspiracy thinking. No one is really is immune. We are all in this together. It is psychologically commonplace – though it gets magnified or distorted under certain circumstances.
2. CLAIM YOUR SOVEREIGNTY: Stay in our own sovereignty and energy management around the content. – it can be intense and disorienting.
3. DON'T BELITTLE CTs or CTers: Avoid belittling them and encourage others not to – as it encourages an environment that is not conducive to engaging them.
4. DETERMINE WHAT KIND OF CT IS IT? Determine if it is a rational or irrational CT (or an evidence-based CT vs a speculative CT) – how much evidence and what kinds does it have supporting it.
5. DIFFERENTIATE BETWEEN GOOD DATA POINTS vs NARRATIVE: Keep in mind that CTs often are based on good data points and insights and are pointing to "gaps" we ignore at our own peril. Differentiate the data points from the narrative. Acknowledge the "facts" (if they are solid/verifiable) but don't blindly accept the "links".
6. ACKNOWLEDGE THE "DEEP MEMETIC FRAME" INVOLVED: Identify the deep memetic frame being presented and connect with that w/o affirming the content of the CT. CTs tend to resonate with our deepest sense of how the world is (i.e., our worldview).
7. HANGOUT IN THE GAP: Acknowledge that the official story doesn't add up but refrain from committing to a CT – allow for multiple possible non-official stories to contain potential explanations. Allow yourself to "reject" the official story but holdback from identifying with a single CT narrative.
8. TALK ABOUT CTs & SEEK CT PERSPECTIVES: Talk with people about all of this - Seek the perspectives of the CT believer. Chances are they have some good points and reasons for their position.
9. AVOID HAVING A CT ABOUT CTers: Avoid falling into us-them dynamics and simple explanations for complex scenarios esp. ones that have some concerning data points supporting them.
10. LOOK TO SEE IF CTs ARE FEAR OR GROWTH BASED: Look to see if the CT actually moves us toward a better society – evolves systems or consciousness by exposing hard truths, demanding transparency, accountability, etc. or does it attempt to better society by instilling fear, racism, separation, division. Be wary of any version of a CT that dehumanizes people.
11. EXPAND YOUR MEDIA DIET & AVOID DIGITAL ECHO CHAMBERS: Expand your media diet to avoid digital echo chambers – engage in a diverse source of information – avoid algorithm selections for you.
12. AVOID DEMONIZING BIG Xs: Be cautious when you demonize Mainstream (Big) Media, Big Pharma, the USG (Big government) and instead strive to point out the aspects of those "others" you find problematic – be as specific as possible.
13. UPDATE AND REFINE YOUR PERSPECTIVE: Keep updating and refining your own perspective even when it contradicts earlier positions you had. Don't stay static in your own thinking – try and add to it vs replace it with some other position. Lean into doubleness, "good "contradictions, and complexity.
14. PRACTICE & PROMOTE EPISTEMIC REFLEXIVITY & HUMILITY: Practice epistemic reflexivity (reflecting on your own thinking) and epistemic humility (reflecting on your own biases, tendencies, limitations, projections). The more metacognition we can develop the better. Unhelpful CTs often involve simplistic non-reflective modes of thinking and analysis. Encourage others to do these types of thinking practices and look for them in our information leaders.
15. HELP REBUILD OUR INSTITUTIONS: CTs are thriving because we have lost trust in science, government, and journalism – for some very good reasons I might add – all of these institutions have been found to have taken advantage of our trust in them. How do we rebuild those institutions – what are the checks and balances that can create a healthy knowledge and information ecosystem.
16. BE COMPASSIONATE WITH EACH OTHER WE ARE ALL IN A SENSE-MAKING CRISIS: Individually and collective we are facing a crisis of sense-making and meaning – we need to be compassionate to ourselves and those around us as we all try and figure out how to navigate this terrain.

For more information on Sean Esbjörn-Hargens and Terry Patten, check out the following resources:

• For more information on Sean, check out the following resources:
• Sean's "Exo Studies" Institute
• Sean's recent paper, "Our Wild Kosmos!: An Exo Studies Exploration of the Ontological Status of Non-Human Intelligences"
• What's Up With UFOs? website
• MetaIntegral website
• Book edited by Sean in 2015, Metatheory for the Twenty-First Century
• Book edited by Sean in 2019, Dancing with Sophia: Integral Philosophy on the Verge
• State of Emergence podcast website
• Terry Patten's nonprofit, A New Republic of the Heart
• Terry Patten's personal website

Join Our Upcoming Podcast Q&AWe will be exploring this episode in greater depth during our next State of Emergence live Q&A. If you haven't already joined us, I want to officially invite you to become a Friend of State of Emergence and join these monthly Q&A sessions with me and other listeners episodes, as well as help the podcast become financially sustainable. A vibrant, intelligent, and caring community is already gathering around State of Emergence and we'd love for you to be part of it. Our next Q&A event will be on Tuesday, April 13th at 12 PM noon PST (recording will be available). Go to stateofemergence.org and click "Join the Conversation."

Author and professor Jeffrey Kripal joins Terry to explore the multidimensional, psychophysical nature of reality, as well as the potential of new kinds of agency, cooperation, and co-creativity. They begin by noticing the stranglehold that materialism still seems to have on our popular imagination, and also acknowledge the recent emergence of what Jeff calls "the flip" — a paradigm shift from imagining consciousness as an accidental epiphenomenon to recognizing that it is quite likely more fundamental than matter to the nature of reality. Then, they consider how popular acceptance of the reality of paranormal phenomena, UFOs, NDEs, and other "impossible" experiences may serve as an essential pivot in the larger cultural project of transitioning to a new story — especially as we're reaching the dead-end of the old materialist story. Already it is beginning to open the collective mind and clearing space for new voices, new stories, and new ways of being together.

Jeffrey Kripal holds the J. Newton Rayzor Chair in Philosophy and Religious Thought at Rice University where he also chairs the department. He has also long served on the Board of Trustees of the Esalen Institute in Big Sur, California. Jeff is the author of eight influential books, where he has freely ranged across religious, spiritual, cultural, and paranormal realities — from Eros (passion) to Gnosis (esoteric understanding) to Nous (discernment) to Theosis (the divinization of the human) including, most recently, the wonderful short book, The Flip: Who You Really Are and Why It Matters. If you've read his books you are grateful for the kind of scholarly wisdom that makes his books such a pleasure to read. He writes as simply and comprehensibly as possible, emphasizing the meaning, significance, and relevance of ideas, key thinkers and mystics, and their history.

Here are some of the questions Jeff and Terry explore in the episode:

• How can our popular discourse about reality expand beyond highly-credentialed intellectuals and academia to include the countless extraordinary experiences of ordinary people?
• What evidence suggests that people are making "the flip" to a new understanding of consciousness?
• As we recognize the limits of materialism, which new stories are emerging? (Dr. Kripal helps us understand panpsychism, dual-aspect monism and evolutionary panentheism.)
• Is there a philosophical and scientific basis for "flipped" individuals to "dream a new dream?" What about groups "co-creating" from transpersonal consciousnesses?

For more information on Jeffrey Kripal and Terry Patten, check out the following resources:

• Jeffrey Kripal's website
• Jeff's recent book, The Flip: Epiphanies of Mind and the Future of Knowledge
• State of Emergence podcast website
• Terry Patten's nonprofit, A New Republic of the Heart
• Terry Patten's personal website

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Prophetic teacher, psychologist, author and poet, Bayo Akomolafe joins Terry to explore the "cracks in the world" that are opening to swallow everything we've been taught to believe and sense into the voices, adventures, and new worlds that are poised to emerge.

With vivid original imagination and a ruthless deep kindness, Bayo names the limits of modern Western "solutionism" and invites us to make "fugitive breaks" away from familiar ways of knowing — to become consciously "lost" or "exiled" from our patterns of "proliferating the old."

He encourages us to meet our realities as if for the very first time and to embrace risks, strangeness, and unusual experimentation in our ways of being, relating, parenting, and creating. As we concluded our conversation, Bayo invited us to face our apocalyptic time as both a world-ending event and a world-creating event, mandating not just deep grief but also resilient curiosity and playfulness.

Bayo Akomolafe is a celebrated international speaker, teacher, public intellectual, and author, as well as (in his words) a "fugitive neo-materialist post-activist, and Yoruba poet." Bayo was born into a Christian home and to Yoruba parents in western Nigeria. He was teaching at Covenant University, Nigeria before becoming Special Envoy of the International Alliance for Localization, a project of Ancient Futures (USA). He went on to teach throughout the U.S. at Middlebury College, Sonoma State University, Simon Fraser University, Schumacher College — among other universities around the world — on his own formulated concepts of 'transraciality' and postactivism. He currently lives between India and the United States lecturing at Pacifica Graduate Institute, California and University of Vermont, Burlington, Vermont, sitting on the Board of many organizations including Science and Nonduality, and serves as Chief Curator of The Emergence Network. He is also the author of two books, These Wilds Beyond our Fences: Letters to My Daughter on Humanity's Search for Home and We Will Tell our Own Story: The Lions of Africa Speak.

For more information on Bayo Akomolafe and Terry Patten, check out the following resources:

• Bayo Akomolafe's website
• The Emergence Network
• Bayo's book, These Wilds Beyond Our Fences: Letter to My Daughter on Humanity's Search for Home
• Bayo's book, We Will Tell Our Own Story: The Lions of Africa Speak
• Terry's nonprofit website A New Republic of the Heart
• Terry Patten's website

If you haven't already joined us, we want to officially invite you to become a Friend of State of Emergence — a new way to engage with the podcast conversation and access new live discussions and Q&A with me every month. Our next session will be on March 9, 2021. The requested contribution is $10/month, but if you cannot afford that and you want to participate, just contact us. Everyone is welcome. Additionally, you're invited to be part of our vibrant, growing, international community at A New Republic of the Heart in other new ways — check out the options here on our website. We hope you'll join us!

Philosopher and author Tim Freke joins Terry to explore the personal, cultural, and global implications of an integration of our best rational and spiritual understandings of reality. Tim Freke is an English philosopher and author of 35 books, including a Sunday Times bestseller and Daily Telegraph 'Book of the Year'. He is the founder of 'Unividualism', which combines evolutionary science and deep spirituality to offer a visionary new understanding of the nature of reality and the purpose of life.

Tim and Terry begin by revisiting fundamental philosophical questions of eros, entropy, telos, and consciousness itself. Then, they examine our current existential crisis in the context of history — considering the nature of "chaos" and the tendency for each generation to imagine it's living in the "worst of times." Tim especially points to how our personal awakenings draw us into a care and benevolence for everyone and everything, and how this may be our biggest evolutionary advantage.

They then explore the implications of "paralogical" (both/and) thinking, Tim's concept of "unividualism," and how joy and grief coexist at the knife-edge of emergence, knowing that everything we love might be both collapsing and evolving and emerging into sublimity. Ultimately, Tim suggests that the whole point is the miraculous process of evolutionary emergence, where something that has never existed before is birthed into being — again and again. If emergence is the nature of the Divine, then what is emerging is… God!

For more information on Tim Freke and Terry Patten, check out the following resources:

• Tim Freke's Website
• Tim's overview of Unividualism
• Books by Tim Freke
• Terry's nonprofit website A New Republic of the Heart
• Terry's book, A New Republic of the Heart: An Ethos for Revolutionaries
• Terry Patten's website

Terry Patten explores the delusion, anxiety, loneliness, and fear experienced across our culture as well as the potential for sacred, next-stage friendship to be a key leverage point for healing the madness. Terry also invites members of the New Republic of the Heart practice community to share their experiences participating in a daring social experiment in transformational relating and co-creativity. Ultimately, Terry and others extend a special invitation to listeners.

Here are some of the questions he explores:

• How can we best understand the wildly challenging collective madness that is gripping so many people around the world?
• How do we "go sane" amidst the madness?
• How can we find deep "spiritual friends" — people who are humble and open, and who can meet us at the heart amidst whatever craziness arises?
• Which experimental practices and ways of relating can catalyze the wisdom, coherence and heart allies that our predicament requires?
• How can we keep growing our capacities to reassert our relationships and heal our cultural divisions — even to the point of healing people falling into collective delusions?

It's one thing to talk about these things — and it's an entirely different thing to actually live them. For that we need friends. We each need a tribe of like-minded and like-hearted souls — our spiritual friends amidst this cultural madness. If you are a practitioner, if you have gifts to share, and/or if you want to join hands with other serious practitioners, this session is the event where we are extending you a wholehearted invitation. We are a co-creative practice community of practitioners and change agents from 20+ countries, and we welcome you.

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For more information on Terry Patten and A New Republic of the Heart, check out the following resources:

• A New Republic of the Heart – Social Experiment Community
• A New Republic of the Heart – All Membership Categories
• Terry's book, A New Republic of the Heart: An Ethos for Revolutionaries
• Terry Patten's website

Purpose guide and psychotherapist Jonathan Gustin joins Terry to explore the vital processes of discovering and actualizing our soul's purpose, in clear and practical terms, to benefit our world in crisis. Jonathan builds upon our recent episode with Bill Plotkin by offering important distinctions between purpose, vocation, and pleasure. He also describes what he calls integral awakening, using his "three worlds" model of consciousness, in which the "lower world" represents our descent to soul, our discovery of our true name and place beneath personality, and our ongoing process of becoming a unique gift to whole.

Jonathan is a purpose guide, psychotherapist, and teacher. He is the founder and lead teacher of the Purpose Guides Institute, which guides people to embody their purpose as a gift to life and trains purpose guides to facilitate the transformation of humanity to a "soul-embodied species." Jonathan serves as adjunct faculty at John F. Kennedy University in the Consciousness and Transformation Studies program and he has taught meditation in a variety of environments, from universities and prisons to corporate businesses and hospital systems. Jonathan has also co-taught alongside Joanna Macy, George Leonard, and Bill Plotkin.

Here are some additional questions we explore:

• How can the "three worlds" model of consciousness (lower world, middle world and upper world) clarify a lifetime of maturation?
• How is our unique purpose both an expression of and a gift to the whole?
• How does the "imaginal matrix" function as the "spiritual soil" for our soul growth?
• Is our deepest fulfillment really found in "giving ourselves away" and being "thoroughly used by life?"
• Do friendships, communities, or even species have collective purposes? How does collective purpose evolve amidst crises?

For more information on Jonathan Gustin and Terry Patten, check out the following resources:

• Intro to Purpose Discovery - A Free 90 minute Live Mini-Workshop with Jonathan Gustin
• Purpose Guides Institute website
• The Purpose Octagon
• Terry's nonprofit website A New Republic of the Heart
• Terry's book, A New Republic of the Heart: An Ethos for Revolutionaries
• Terry Patten's website

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You're invited to a major online teaching event on Wednesday, Feb 3 at 12 Noon PST: "Spiritual Friends Amidst Cultural Madness: The Power of Our Grateful Generosity." Terry will share new insights about navigating our fragmenting world and how a key leverage point for making a real difference is our capacity for generosity and friendship. He will also be joined by the co-creators of our "social experiment" community at A New Republic of the Heart — and together we will offer a glimpse into the ways we are experimenting at the leading-edge of spiritual friendship. Click here to register or receive the recording.

In light of the inauguration of Joe Biden and Kamala Harris, host Terry Patten shares spontaneous reflections on endings, new beginnings, hope, despair, the spiritual tasks of this time, and how we can refuse to put anyone out of our hearts. We hope that you appreciate this episode, and, most importantly, that you are finding your own way to a renewed and inspired civic engagement during the current transition.

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We invite you to join become a Friend of State of Emergence on our website (if you haven't already) by making a monthly contribution to help the podcast thrive. You will then receive access links to our future live Q&A events every month with Terry and others. We hope you'll join us!

For more information on Terry Patten, check out the following resources:

• Terry's nonprofit website A New Republic of the Heart
• Terry's book, A New Republic of the Heart: An Ethos for Revolutionaries
• Terry Patten's website

Ecopsychologist, wilderness guide and author Bill Plotkin joins Terry to consider the human crisis as essentially a crisis of immaturity — that true human adults and human elders are both extraordinarily rare today. Bill speaks to what is truly required for us — as individuals, and collectively — to grow from our extended adolescence into mature human adulthood. He describes the challenging, and sometimes hazardous, spiritual process of "soul initiation," which demands the dissolution of our current identities and metamorphosis of our egos into mature co-creators, each of us born to serve a unique niche in our ecological, psychological and social worlds.

Bill explains in rich detail the key understandings, models, and processes that guide his facilitation of soul work in his Animas community. He also shares new insights from Carl Jung's The Red Book about the "feminine" aspects of the psyche, the difference between "soul" and "muse," and experimental dreamwork. Ultimately, he points to a profound basis for hope — the living Earth has already provided what the world needs by creating us. He says we who are here now are the medicine the earth needs, if only we undergo the transformation it takes to deliver it.

Bill Plotkin is an eco-depth psychologist, wilderness guide, and agent of cultural regeneration. As founder of southwest Colorado's Animas Valley Institute, he has, since 1980, guided thousands of women and men on the journey of soul initiation. His previous books are Soulcraft: Crossing into the Mysteries of Nature and Psyche, Nature and the Human Soul: Cultivating Wholeness and Community in a Fragmented World, and Wild Mind: A Field Guide to the Human Psyche. His new book, The Journey of Soul Initiation is a field guide, based on the experiences of thousands of people, describing the principles and evokes the varied lived experiences of the riveting and sometimes hazardous odyssey of soul initiation, using many vivid stories and an in-depth exploration of Carl Jung's Red Book.

Here are some additional questions Bill and Terry explore:

• What is the "descent to soul", and how does it relate to the journey of soul initiation?
• What are the necessary stages of the "soul initiation" process?
• What becomes of our consciousness and societal and ecological roles as the process is fulfilled?
• Might we be more effective in evolving culture by aiming for "human maturity" instead of "consciousness development?"
• What is our soul's purpose, and why is that necessarily poetic or metaphorical?
• Why is the common idea that our purpose is our vocation a misconception?
• What is it to create a delivery mechanism for our soul's purpose?
• What is the nature of the much deeper maturity that lies beyond all that?

For more information on Bill Plotkin and Terry Patten, check out the following resources:

• Bill Plotkin's organization, Animas Valley Institute
• Bill's new book, The Journey of Soul Initiation: A Field Guide for Visionaries, Revolutionaries, and Evolutionaries
• Bill's book, Soulcraft: Crossing Into the Mysteries of Nature and Psyche
• Bill's book, Nature and the Human Soul: Cultivating Wholeness and Community in a Fragmented World
• Bill's book, Wild Mind: A Field Guide to the Human Psyche
• Terry's nonprofit website A New Republic of the Heart
• Terry's book, A New Republic of the Heart: An Ethos for Revolutionaries
• Terry Patten's website

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We invite you to join Terry and other listeners of State of Emergence for a live Q&A and conversation and Saturday, January 23rd at 10 AM Pacific. To participate, simply become a Friend of State of Emergence on our website (if you haven't already) by making a monthly contribution to the podcast. Then, you'll receive access links to next Saturday's session and our future Q&A events every month. Our first session (in December) was lively, deep, and inspiring, and we hope you'll join us next time!

Evolutionary leader, thinker, and founder of The Shift Network Stephen Dinan joins Terry to explore how conspiracy thinking and new paradigm ideas are sometimes merging in a phenomenon some call "Conspirituality" — which he articulated, with clarity and courage, in a Medium essay some months ago titled, "Anatomy of Delusion: How Otherwise Conscious People Descended into the Darkness." Although this episode was recorded a couple weeks before the recent rioting and insurrection at the U.S. capitol, it's more relevant than ever now.

Stephen and Terry consider the psycho-social implications of the self-delusion and self-radicalization that is taking place in our online, algorithm-driven "preference bubbles" and which conscious efforts might nurture sanity, coherence, and trust. They explore the social artistry of raising our voices of wholeness and humility to counterbalance extremism and also sensing when our listening, curiosity, and depth of presence is even more valuable than speaking up.

Stephen Dinan is the founder and CEO of The Shift Network, which has served over 3 million people worldwide, with customers in 150 countries. It delivers virtual summits, courses, and trainings in spirituality, peace, holistic health, psychology, parenting, enlightened business, shamanism, indigenous wisdom, and sustainability. Stephen is a member of the Transformational Leadership Council and Evolutionary Leaders, he helped create the Esalen Institute's Center for Theory & Research and he led a number of noteworthy programs for the Institute of Noetic Sciences. Stephen has been a featured speaker at the World Cultural Forum in China, the Alliance for a New Humanity in Costa Rica, Renovemos Mexico in Mexico City, and the University of Cuenca in Ecuador, as well as many US events and summits. He is the author of Sacred America, Sacred World: Fulfilling Our Mission in Service to All and Radical Spirit.

Here are some additional questions Stephen and Terry explore:

• How does "new paradigm thinking" in the consciousness movement sometimes lead to a countercultural distrust of mainstream information and an embrace of false narratives?
• In which ways might we enable people to have positive defenses from false truths and disastrous narratives while remaining open to emergent possibilities?
• How do our online echo chambers become self-radicalizing and contribute to collective manic episodes on a social level?
• Can voices of wholeness and humility grow "louder" to counterbalance the totalizing and radicalizing forces in our media ecosystem?
• How can our depth of presence and curiosity add a valuable buffer against toxic and totalizing narratives? When is listening even more valuable than saying something?

For more information on Stephen Dinan and Terry Patten, check out the following resources:

• Stephen Dinan's website
• The Shift Network
• Stephen's Medium essay, Anatomy of Delusion: How Otherwise Conscious People Descended into Darkness
• Stephen's book, Sacred America, Sacred World: Fulfilling Our Mission of Service to All
• Stephen's book, Radical Spirit: Spiritual Writings from the Voices of Tomorrow
• Terry's nonprofit website A New Republic of the Heart
• Terry Patten's website

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If you haven't already joined us, we want to officially invite you to become a Friend of State of Emergence — a new way to engage with the podcast conversation and access new live discussions and Q&A with me every month. Our next session will be on January 23rd, 2021. The requested contribution is $10/month, but if you cannot afford that and you want to participate, just contact us. Everyone is welcome. Additionally, you're invited to be part of our vibrant, growing, international community at A New Republic of the Heart in other new ways — check out the options here on our website. We hope you'll join us!

Remarkable mystic and teacher Thomas Hübl joins Terry to discuss his new book Healing Collective Trauma, and they take the exploration into some new deep places. Every human being is born into and affected by, either directly or indirectly, the collective wounds of human history — epigenetically, energetically, and systemically. This is why Thomas says that we are all "shareholders of our collective unconscious." Intergenerational and cultural traumas become "frozen hostages stuck in time." In the conversation, Thomas describes how we can honor the intelligent functions of these hostages, our traumas, and make them our allies. We can harvest their evolutionary life intelligence and energy by consciously allowing the inherent self-healing mechanisms of our own bodies and minds. They explore what is revealed by this exquisitely subtle understanding. It shines new light on what is emerging now in the collective field of human consciousness during this intense and dramatic time on planet Earth.

Thomas Hübl is a highly original mystic and teacher, and the founder of the Academy of Inner Science. His teachings integrate new discoveries from contemporary science with his direct mystical knowledge, resonant with ancient wisdom traditions. I first met him over a decade ago, and we became good friends, & in the time since I've had the honor to help introduce Thomas to the English-speaking world. Now, Thomas has worked with more than 100,000 people worldwide through workshops, multi-year training programs and online courses. He has guided large-scale healing events that have brought together thousands of Germans and Israelis to acknowledge, face and heal the cultural shadow left by the Holocaust. He is also the founder of the nonprofit Pocket Project, which aims to increase awareness and understanding of collective trauma and reduce its effects. He also founded the annual Celebrate Life Festival that gathers conscious people in Germany and America. His important new book is Healing Collective Trauma: A Process for Integrating our Intergenerational and Cultural Wounds.

Here are a few additional questions Thomas and Terry explore:

• How are our ancestors' trauma and frozen structures tending to reenact themselves in our present-day relationships?
• How can we cooperate with the intelligence of our trauma process, allowing a natural process of self-healing?
• Thomas's concept of "retro-causality" suggests that the whole karmic pattern of intergenerational trauma can be healed in the light of open awareness.
• What is it like to be so exquisitely present, here and now, that we catalyze such radical healing of the past, present and future?
• Thomas talks about "cultural presencing," the social artistry of honoring and healing collective trauma. What are the practices we do in this present moment to allow that to begin?

For more information on Thomas Hübl and Terry Patten, check out the following resources:

• Thomas Hübl's website
• Thomas' new book Healing Collective Trauma: A Process for Integrating our Intergenerational and Cultural Wounds
• Thomas' organization The Academy of Inner Science
• Thomas' nonprofit organization The Pocket Project
• Celebrate Life Festival
• Terry Patten's website
• A New Republic of the Heart

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