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Ever stayed quiet to keep the peace—then reached your limit and let everyone have it?
Welcome to Steel Marshmallows, where compassion has a backbone and being strong leaves room for being human.
In this first episode, hosts Jennifer Urezzio and Amy Fortney explore what it means to be a steel marshmallow: someone who can be warm, generous, and vulnerable while holding boundaries and saying what needs to be said.
Through candid stories from corporate life, client relationships, and encounters with neighbors, they unpack the tension between people pleasing and coming in a little too hot. Jennifer explores how self-acceptance and releasing attachment to outcomes can soften the need to fight. Amy shares practical language for expressing expectations, navigating conflict, and making your needs clear.
Together, they discuss:
How being “nice” can lead to overgiving, resentment, and eventual explosions.
Why understanding your wants and needs makes boundaries easier to communicate.
Simple phrases such as “My expectation is…” and “I am willing to…” that help move difficult conversations forward.
How to recognize when a situation calls for more firmness or more softness.
The value of forgiving yourself, apologizing when needed, and trying again.
Honest, funny, and full of useful tools, this conversation invites you to stop apologizing for having a backbone—and give your softer side room to breathe.
Where in your life could you use a little more steel—or a little more marshmallow?
Steel Marshmallows is a podcast for people who are done choosing between being kind and being taken seriously. Hosts Jennifer Urezzio and Amy Fortney dig into the art of combining compassion, warmth, and generosity with a spine of steel. They know that being a successful Steel Marshmallow means knowing you are safe to be vulnerable, be heard, and be all of who you are without apology.
Every episode is about saying what you need, setting the expectation, and making your opinion impossible to ignore, all without turning into someone you don't recognize. Because the strongest person in the room isn't necessarily the hardest. It's the one who has the least attachment to controlling the outcome. A Steel Marshmallow knows how to stay warm without giving up an inch of who they are.
You can learn more about Amy here: https://theextraexecutive.com/
You can learn more about Jennifer here: https://soullanguage.us/
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