This week on the podcast, Angela speaks with Stephanie Danler, author of the best seller Sweetbitter and her new memoir Stray. Stephanie tells Angela about confronting her past, the dangers of magical thinking, and the value of gentleness.

Stray is available now and you can purchase it via the link on our website, LitUpPodcast.com.

Lit Up is a podcast from Sugar23. It's hosted by Angela Ledgerwood and produced by Liam Billingham. Mike Mayer and Michael Sugar are the executive producers. This week's episode was edited by Rebecca Seidel. The theme music is by Andrey Radovsky.