Ballmer Group co-founder Steve Ballmer talks with Recode's Kara Swisher and Kurt Wagner about USAFacts, his effort to open up data about how federal, state and local governments in the U.S. spend their money. He says he wants the site to be a nonpartisan resource for people looking for a better understanding of how the nation's finances work. He also talks about why, as a large Twitter shareholder, he still believes in the company's ability to turn its strong cultural currency into a real business. As the owner of the Los Angeles Clippers, Ballmer says he's also excited by a new partnership between the Clippers and a firm called Second Spectrum that will augment the game-watching experience.

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