Still Curious

Bo is an expert in sales management, strategy and execution in the enterprise software industry, based in Denmark. We talk about how to walk into a room and what it means to establish a cycle of curiosity with your clients.

Key Topics

• Bo's squiggly career, from studying communications for fun, to switching jobs with a friend, to helping grow a global software company
• Bo's practical wisdom on the difference between being 'sold to' and having a salesperson who is an expert on helping you address your needs
• What it means to establish a cycle of curiosity with clients and why quality of communication is so important

Detours and Tangents

• What clients can learn from salespeople
• Why the fear of IT projects going horribly wrong can become a self-fulfilling prophecy

Episode Summary
Visit the Grokkist podcast hub for a full digest of this episode including highlights and links to stuff we discussed: https://grokk.ist/stillcuriouspodcast/s1e9-bo-alroe/

Recorded 30 October 2021

Website: grokk.ist/stillcuriouspodcast | Email: [email protected] | Socials: @grokkist
Music: Kleptotonic Swing by Tri-Tachyon

In this solo episode, Danu reflects on caring and uncaring teaching, how we live out what the world teaches us and why an ethical imagination is the beating heart of education.

• Why we need an ethical imagination
• How an uncaring teaching system kills curiosity
• How we live out what the world has taught us
• The truth about learning outcomes

Episode Summary
Visit the Grokkist podcast hub for a full digest of this episode including highlights and links to stuff we discussed: https://grokk.ist/stillcuriouspodcast/s1e8-danu-poyner/

Recorded 7 November 2021

Website: grokk.ist/stillcuriouspodcast | Email: [email protected] | Socials: @grokkist
Music: Kleptotonic Swing by Tri-Tachyon

Kathryn is a hydrogeologist with a wealth of experience in the private energy sector. We talk about how she fell into hydrogeology and how she combines her love of the environment, adventure, science and emotional connection to make a difference in her community.

Key Topics

• Kathryn's squiggly career path, from dropping out of music school and waitressing in outback Australia to managing multi-million dollar groundwater projects
• How the availability of safe, supportive and nurturing spaces, relationships and communities can completely change the course of your life
• How Kathryn combines her love of the environment, adventure, science and emotional connection to make a difference in the world of hydrogeology

Detours and Tangents

• The time Kathryn got lost in the wilderness with her dad and a search party came looking for them
• The challenges of moving from being a specialist out in the field to being a manager behind the desk
• Diversity, inclusion and mentoring in the energy sector
• What Kathryn loves about singing in a women's barbershop choir

Episode Summary
Visit the Grokkist podcast hub for a full digest of this episode including highlights and links to stuff we discussed: https://grokk.ist/stillcuriouspodcast/s1e7-kathryn-harris/

Recorded 2 October 2021

Website: grokk.ist/stillcuriouspodcast | Email: [email protected] | Socials: @grokkist
Music: Kleptotonic Swing by Tri-Tachyon

Peter Gilderdale is a freelance writer and calligrapher and recently retired lecturer in Design History at Auckland University of Technology. We talk about the difference between education that gets people creative and excited vs turning out people who just want to tick boxes.

Key Topics

• Why ‘learning outcomes’ and the disciplinary apparatus of a university shuts down free thinking, excitement, innovation and student-focussed education
• How an abiding interest in marrying image and text has led Peter on a life journey through calligraphy, communication design, art history and Egyptology
• How assessment gets in the way of learning and how simply removing it altogether can lead to a supportive learning culture that exudes excellence
• Peter’s observations on changing attitudes towards the arts, from a resurgence of young people’s interest in calligraphy via graffiti, to the rise of an educated middle class who no longer consider the arts necessary or valuable

Detours and Tangents

• How a timetabling clash led Peter to discover one of the world's oldest signed works of art while working on an archeological dig in Egypt
• How doing a PhD about Edwardian postcards helped Peter to connect with his family's history as immigrants
• Why it is that so many good calligraphers also turn out to be so good at playing golf

Episode Summary
Visit the Grokkist podcast hub for a full digest of this episode including highlights and links to stuff we discussed: https://grokk.ist/stillcuriouspodcast/s1e6-peter-gilderdale/

Recorded 7 October 2021

Website: grokk.ist/stillcuriouspodcast | Email: [email protected] | Socials: @grokkist
Music: Kleptotonic Swing by Tri-Tachyon

Gail develops and runs leadership programs in organisations to help people increase their self insight and become better leaders. We discuss why people can be really intellectually smart, but if they're not aware of the emotional impact they're having on others, then they won't be very effective.

Key Topics

• How emotions drive behaviour and why no amount of intellect, courage, knowledge or motivation can make up for a lack of emotional intelligence
• How Gail challenges people to reflect on their beliefs and behaviour while validating their perspectives and protecting their sense of self
• "No Plan A, just a random set of decisions" – Gail's squiggly career and why she gave the two-finger salute to professional teaching
• What it means to have an 'undeniable experience' and be programmed with possibility

Detours and Tangents

• Why new leaders need to stop getting their sense of self from the what they personally achieve and develop a whole new skillset about helping other people do the best that they can
• How Gail's improv comedy experience helps her be a fearless facilitator
• The time Gail designed and facilitated a business expo program for teenagers to make a realistic business pitch for not-necessarily-realistic products. “It was chaos, but it was exciting”
• Why the most satisfying lightbulb moments Gail has witnessed in her clients are often simply about people becoming better listeners

Episode Summary
Visit the Grokkist podcast hub for a full digest of this episode including highlights and links to stuff we discussed: https://grokk.ist/stillcuriouspodcast/s1e5-gail-reichert/


Recorded 1 October 2021

Website: grokk.ist/stillcuriouspodcast | Email: [email protected] | Socials: @grokkist
Music: Kleptotonic Swing by Tri-Tachyon

Carl is a games producer and podcaster. We talk about how learning to make short gameplay montages of Call of Duty 4 during high school set him on a squiggly path from film to social media content creation, and eventually into the games industry.


Key Topics

• Why learning how to edit gameplay montages of Call of Duty 4 as a teenager helped Carl more than anything he took from studying at school
• How Carl's passion for storytelling took him from film to being a social media content creator and eventually into the games industry
• How Carl overcame his self-doubts by taking action, following his curiosity and putting himself out there
• How Carl uses keeps himself energised by finding a community of people who share his curiosity and excitement and motivate him to keep taking action

Detours and Tangents

• What's involved in being a games producer
• Skills necessary to succeed in the games industry
• Games for education

Episode Summary
Visit the Grokkist podcast hub for a full digest of this episode including highlights and links to stuff we discussed: https://grokk.ist/stillcuriouspodcast/s1e4-carl-leducq/

Recorded 28 September 2021

Website: grokk.ist/stillcuriouspodcast | Email: [email protected] | Socials: @grokkist
Music: Kleptotonic Swing by Tri-Tachyon

Eleanor is a tertiary Librarian living, working, and learning in Melbourne/Naarm. They are interested in researcher development, integrating library services in the research lifecycle, the role of cross-boundary professionals in tertiary institutions, and library advocacy.

Key Topics

• What would happen if librarians disappeared? Eleanor’s thoughts on library advocacy
• How Eleanor works across boundaries to create supportive conversations in the highly siloed world of academia
• How over-administration and the paradigms of funding and performance measurement often discourage curiosity in academia and impact people in the profession
• How Eleanor uses care and criticism to navigate a love-hate relationship with their profession

Detours and Tangents

• How critical cataloguing tries to undo the harms caused by the Dewey Decimal system
• Eleanor’s love of film and their role as artistic director for Czech and Slovak Film Festival Australia (CASFFA)
• Why Eleanor doesn’t engage with the concept of ‘heroes’ and why you don’t always have to know your mentors

Episode Summary
Visit the Grokkist podcast hub for a full digest of this episode including highlights and links to stuff we discussed: https://grokk.ist/stillcuriouspodcast/s1e3-eleanor-colla/

Recorded 27 September 2021

Website: grokk.ist/stillcuriouspodcast | Email: [email protected] | Socials: @grokkist
Music: Kleptotonic Swing by Tri-Tachyon

Myles Tankle is a theatre maker, performance capture actor, facilitator and change management professional based in Melbourne, Australia.

Key Topics

• What theatre has taught Myles about dealing with emotion in corporate workplaces
• The teaching and customer service techniques Myles learned at Apple as a Creative Trainer that he still uses in everyday life
• Why change management is the confluence of everything Myles has learned about 'people problems' throughout his squiggly career

Detours and Tangents

• What's involved in being a motion capture and medical role-play actor
• The logistics of transitioning a large network of cemeteries back to the office after remote working during the pandemic
• Why travelling to India changed Myles' life
• The similarities between what makes an immersive theatre experience and an immersive learning experience

Episode Summary
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https://grokk.ist/stillcuriouspodcast/s1e2-myles-tankle/

Recorded 14 September 2021

Website: grokk.ist/stillcuriouspodcast | Email: [email protected] | Socials: @grokkist
Music: Kleptotonic Swing by Tri-Tachyon

It's the very first episode! Usually there will be guests but for the first one it's just Danu explaining what the podcast is about, what he's doing it and what he hopes to achieve with it.

• Why do a podcast about curiosity?
• Where Danu is coming from
• How curiosity connects to education

Episode Summary
Visit the Grokkist podcast hub for a full digest of this episode including highlights and links to stuff we discussed: https://grokk.ist/stillcuriouspodcast/s1e1-danu-poyner/

Recorded 4 September 2021

Website: grokk.ist/stillcuriouspodcast | Email: [email protected] | Socials: @grokkist
Music: Kleptotonic Swing by Tri-Tachyon