Most ecommerce brands treat brand marketing and performance marketing as two separate conversations — two separate budgets, two separate teams, often two separate agencies pulling in different directions.
Matt Roffe thinks that's the problem.
Matt is a fractional marketing director working with ecommerce brands across food and drink, fashion, homeware and consumer goods. His clients include Hiut Denim, Stellar Cookware and Saicho Sparkling Tea. He's worked brand-side and agency-side across THG, Cotswold Outdoor, Ribble Cycles and Impression Digital. And he organises The Marketing Meetup Cheltenham — which means he has a broader pulse on what's actually happening inside marketing teams right now than most people you'll hear on a podcast.
His philosophy is straightforward but rare: brand and performance are one discipline, not two competing budgets. The numbers and the narrative.
In this episode we get into the reality of fractional marketing — what it actually looks like day to day, why some businesses should avoid it entirely, and the honest answer to the question every founder asks: shouldn't you just hire someone full time?
We also dig into the in-housing trend that's sweeping ecommerce right now — the accountability argument, the agency vs in-house debate, what brands actually lose when they bring everything inside, and whether the relationships agencies have with Google and Meta are as valuable as agencies would have you believe.
Then we get into measurement — what a good marketing framework actually looks like for an ecommerce brand, where most businesses get it catastrophically wrong, and what "the numbers and the narrative" means when a board is asking for ROI and a brand team is talking about storytelling.
And of course, AI. Where it's genuinely changing how marketing teams operate inside ecommerce brands right now, and where it's being completely overhyped.
No polished pitch. No perfect answers. Just an honest conversation from someone who's in it every day.
Still loading. Just like the rest of us.
Matt Roffe:
Linkedin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/mattroffe/
Website: https://www.mattroffe.co.uk/
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