Tom plays pick this film topic. Heron has been thinking about fortresses of fascism. Tom is about to launch a new podcast. Tom asks why Heron isn't making money from his ideas and provides a San Jose Police Department update (with audio). A piece missing from the previous recording is added back in associated with flying. Twenty years of Noble Ape is coming up. Tom explains the molesting of Saturn. What can be done about apathy? Tom talks about Patreon as a failing method. Tom takes a fraudulent call. Heron raises capitalism briefly. Tom wants to know what to grow. They explore travel, Monty Python, longevity and Eddie Murphy. Tom asks about listener feedback and Tea's new YouTube videos.

Tom introduces his trip. They talk about UK migration. Tom talks about his time in Leeds and Manchester. They discuss stately homes in the UK. Tom explains his deteriorating mental state. They explore the idea of the Alamo and listener Andy's perspective on Stone Ape. Heron has some choice words for the world. Joe the Drummer's feedback is explored. Heron wants to get new listeners. Tom formally introduces Andrew Lees into the discourse and Heron's obsession with spambots. They remind themselves about middle America. Heron is divided through brain chemistry. Tom gives Heron a model to make money.

Heron might be able to touch-type soon. Tom talks about strange excuses for murder. They talk about Dear Zachary. They discuss OJ in LA. Tom has a confession for Heron and likes the sympathy of listeners. Tom has pushed aside the previous radical of a social group. Tom deconstructs the systematizers and WWDC. Tom reflects on meeting one of his seminal mentors. The pushing of air can be powerful. What about those digital books? Tom talks about popular music in terms of levels of musicians. They discuss touring for musicians. Heron points out a tipping point. Tom thinks reading is very dangerous. [Editorial note: the sequel will be out sometime up to 2020.] Tom outlines some of the folks he will be meeting.

Heron has been pondering his health. Heron wonders about spam. Tom identifies coal mining porn. Tom recommends 'Dear Zachary: A Letter to a Son About His Father' as the worst documentary of all time. Tom is going to Hell and talks about productivity. They discuss a missed participant. Tom tries to talk about gardening. Heron wants to talk about his rustling. Tom wonders about litter and finding a word. They discuss the ratios of vocabulary and tertiary education. Tom thinks classical music is dying at an exponential rate.

They spend a minute talking about record stores and news agents. Tom explores Heron's broader audience of clown sushi fetishists. They share a battery problem story. Tom raises if organized religion can ever be inoffensive. Tom has changed his gardening practices. Tom recommends the Intelligence Unclassified podcast. Bill Clinton reminds us what war criminals sound like. Brace yourself for the latest San Jose update. Music has been copyrighted. The Gorilla of Code may fall flat. Heron is a Skype jinx. Tom explains Bolinas. They discuss vlogging and twenty years of Noble Ape. They conclude with taxes.

Heron has been having problems with Skype. Heron isn't doing this for you. Heron has found a potential investor but Tom remains skeptical. Tom has been investigating how to do this music thing. Tom is postponing the trip to the UK but built a greenhouse to improve his circumstances. Tom has been reflecting on aging and time [Editorial Note: Robert Mitchum Goof Butts for those in relationships, NSFW]. Tom laments the lack of high culture music that isn't entrenched with propaganda. They stop for a cat/wine break. Tom returns to music and genetic-based health analysis. They discuss Ted Cruz's love of brunettes and prostitutes. Tom gives a short restaurant review.

Tom has woken in an alternative universe for a single issue at least. Heron hasn't collected the check from the most money he has made on Gendo in the past fifteen years. Tom ponders the genetic origins in the pattern of the narrative form with a long wander narrative about a cat thrown in. They discuss shepherding, turbulence and taxes. Tom offers the meeting of the deceased minds. Dissecting listeners along their reading interests takes a number of turns. Tom raises the Aquatic Ape and the Stoned Ape hypotheses. Tom's brain has changed a little bit but the mind is still not going anywhere. Tom tries valiantly to explain a concept about gestalt learning versus team learning. They touch on considered speaking and then there was a crash. They return to listener feedback. Tom raises Heron's journals and owning digital media.

Heron thinks we all fit on spectrums. Tom turns the conversation to post-politics. Heron keeps one light bulb around for one purpose. They discuss the impact of pedophiles. Tom has been exploring audio options and accents. What happened to Heron's YouTube experiment? Tom is enjoying working on the Mushroom Boy.

[Editorial note: This recording was full of technical difficulties that have been removed - hopefully it won't sound too choppy.] Tom asks about Heron's new use of Google Hangouts. Briefly Tom explains a listener's predicament then back to the Hangouts discussion. Tom talks about another listener's podcast. They discuss Tom loosing his memory and being stood up. Tom wants more information about the post-Stone universe. Heron derails a basic discussion of authoritarianism, then talks sumo and TV-less-ness. Tom talks about Australian music of the 1980s and 1990s. Heron isn't showing his keyboard. The recording ends prematurely due to technical difficulties.

Heron gives a movie recommendation. Tom provides some feedback on previous Heron recommendations. Heron recommends a nemesis of Tom's and they agree about artificial life. Tom tackles the blue elephant in the room. What about trusting people?