Heron is slightly scared thanks to a new listener. Heron and Tom discuss unwanted house guests and provide some film recommendations. Heron is doing some audio editing. Tom tries to understand the importance of early 2000s audio to Heron. Tom provides a WWDC playlist and talks about podcast numbers. Two eBay packages are discussed. Tom returns to un-friend-ing reasons and continues to be scammed. Why not malign a teenager's sexuality? Tom raises the importance of male role models. Heron raises net neutrality and Tom ponders how he can be more credible as a witness.

Heron is done with dreaming, perhaps. Heron forgets the last recording. Tom mentions the film, Wittgenstein. What is the purpose of a story? Tom has started his PR experiment. Heron has some ideas about lying. Tom hearts his watch. Heron wants to die in some circumstances and Tom wants to fight. Tom has some insights from his Nazi literature and Monty Python provides many answers. Tom provides a story from his life. They discuss friends.

Heron wonders what would happen if Tom's plane(s) crashed. Listener Rick raised interesting questions about the child-friendly nature of Stone Ape. Tom offers some of his Australia experience topics. What does institutional racism look like elsewhere? When is a calling not a calling? Heron has missed Tom. Tom gives his elevator pitch for Stone Ape. Tom ponders what his life would have been as an illegal alien. They explore Nazi literature and film as a blueprint for moving caterpillar business into the same disregard as the Nazi material. Heron doesn't mind befriending bots on Facebook. Tom reads out some questions from a new listener, Haylee. Heron has been to a Free Lunch Friday and they discuss wardrobe consulting. Tom is a smuggler. Tom asks Heron about films he has watched recently [Editorial note: Dr. Hjalmar Schacht is an interesting case at Nuremberg]. Ear-books versus eye-books? This digresses into Tom's score on paper magazines.

Tom and Heron chat on tech. Heron explains his time in Vietnam. For some unknown reason, Heron want to do a take two on the lady parts. Tom might get his kick in the pants he needs. Heron wants to talk about the reality circus. Tom explains a little more on the Leary stuff. Tom wonders if he can live in a more socialist country. Never go archery shooting with Heron. Tom talks about specific interests. They talk about abstract and advertised things. Tom tells an old tale. They discuss pushing themselves finding new topics. Tom raises the culture of TED - ideas people with money people. Reading out loud in school - how did it impact Tom and Heron? Tom wants people to wear t-shirts.

Originally intended for Bruce's Levity Zone podcast, the following recording seemed a better fit for those who were artificial life savvy. Bruce concludes the conversation with how he may be doing something with deep computation in the future after all.

Heron was once a hood. Tom has a curious date paradox and talks about a familial visitor. They discuss their favorite brand. Heron has a particular relationship with Gary David. Tom gives his homework and talks about his impact on others. Tom ponders his impact and discusses his weekend. What pettiness befalls a favorite topic of the show. Heron returns to a classic and then describes Charles Bukowski.

In this rare simulcast from the Gendo podcast, Heron talks with J. Samuel Bois editor Gary David. The pauses have been maintained by request.

Tom has a new daily podcast http://shortfunk.com/ This is an example of one episode with the subtitle: strategy, that's what it's all about.

Heron has kept in contact with his high school cohorts and talks suicide. They rap about the history of the computer industry as tens of thousands. Tom asks what happens with the next generation of tech. Heron reflects on his first computer and Tom remembers Heron's journals. Heron remembers the popular soft-core porn of the 1970s. Tom has a fan club and will build an excuse builder. A couple of questions of standard Gendo revisited. Connor asks about roleplaying. Casey Neistat http://youtu.be/SuTcavAzopg has inspired Tom to kick off a daily podcast and separately restarting the Mushroom Boy. Tom returns to a favorite topic and satirizes Heron's inaction.

Tom and Heron talk about paying for software. What happens when people discard recycling of little value? Tom offers some topics from the Chong and Chong Show. A discussion on a purposeful life moves back to the notion of the Stonean morality. Tom provides the listeners two practical examples of how he uses lucid dreaming: how can he combat a numbing he has found with time and whether repressed memories can be unrepressed. Heron talks a little about his work and Tom returns to being happy to be a schmuck. Reading old content has indicated to Tom he has a lot of work to do. They return to the recycling incident. Tom's become a low budget knife collector. Tom takes a dive into podcasting history. Heron is creating a parent meet-up. What has happened with the older people? [Editorial note: Morrissey is the missing musician.] What will happen in the cultures of decriminalization? Tom dives into the potential of not discarding all the listeners and whether Stone Ape is a community. The politicians do what the politicians do. They return to the favorite topic of growing tomatoes. The regular recording concludes but Tom chats with his Spiritual Advisor following about the recycling incident, Stone Ape and these many Toms. [Editorial note: This recording was taken with the windows open to the street so there is some street noise and the recording captures both of them with a single microphone.]