In this powerful episode of the Both& Podcast, Pastor Benny Perez and Pastor Ken Claytor confront some of the most pressing cultural conversations through a Kingdom lens.

- Forgiving racism and reverse racism

- Refusing victim and entitlement mentalities

- Why promotion comes from the Lord

- Raising children with kingdom identity

- Work ethic, integrity, and biblical diligence

- Why your pastor is not your puppet

- Speaking with boldness without losing love

- Revival, awakening, and what God is doing right now

We don’t wrestle against flesh and blood. The real battle is spiritual.

This episode will challenge your mindset and provoke deeper thought about how believers should live in a divided culture.

About Pastor Ken Claytor: 

Ken Claytor has a heart to bring people of all backgrounds together to experience the power and love of Jesus. For over 18 years, he has shared the gospel globally while breaking barriers and redefining diversity in the local church.

He and his wife Tabatha lead Alive Church — a multi-generational, multi-ethnic church with campuses in Gainesville and Orlando, Florida, and online. What began with just six adults has grown into a thriving ministry reaching thousands each weekend.

Pastor Ken is also the founder of the Alive Leadership Institute, host of the Alive Conference, and a sought-after speaker. He and Tabatha have been married for 26 years and have three children.

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