In this gripping episode of the No Grey Areas podcast, host Pat McCalla interviews Dr. Dirk van Leenen, author, speaker, and Holocaust survivor. Dirk shares his incredible life story, from surviving Nazi-occupied Holland as a young boy, to his family’s courageous efforts to save hundreds of Jewish lives. His journey through the war is both harrowing and inspiring, offering listeners a firsthand account of the resilience and bravery required to endure one of history's darkest times.

In addition to sharing his personal experiences, Dirk has authored several books on the Holocaust, aiming to educate future generations about the horrors of the war and the importance of never forgetting. His dedication to preserving history through his writing is a testament to his belief that these stories must continue to be told.

This episode not only explores Dirk’s life but also reflects on the power of storytelling to keep history alive and ensure we never turn a blind eye to the atrocities of the past. Tune in to hear how Dirk’s family, without seeking recognition, risked everything to save others and how these events continue to influence him into the man he is today.

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