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- On Quantum Social Change with Karen O'Brien | Ep. 161
Are we underestimating our capacity for social change?
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Today, Abbie and Karen discuss quanta, entanglement, and collapsing potential as they explore mattering and social change.
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Karen O’Brien is a Professor of Human Geography at the University of Oslo, Norway. She is also co-founder of cCHANGE, an organisation that supports deep and strategic engagement with transformations to sustainability. Her research on the human and social dimensions of environmental change emphasises integrative approaches, including how beliefs, values, worldviews, and paradigms influence systems change and social change. She is particularly interested in the relationship between adaptation and transformations to sustainability and in exploring how quantum social science can inform how we understand, engage with, and scale transformative change. In 2021, she was co-recipient of the BBVA Foundation’s Frontiers of Knowledge Award for Climate Change. Karen’s recent books include You Matter More Than You Think: Quantum Social Change for a Thriving World and Climate and Society: Transforming the Future (with Robin Leichenko). She has participated in four IPCC reports and is currently co-chair of the International Science-Policy Platform for Biodiversity and Ecosystem Services (IPBES) transformative change assessment. She also writes a weekly newsletter on quantum social change.
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Stories Lived. Stories Told. is created, produced & hosted by Abbie VanMeter.
Stories Lived. Stories Told. is an initiative of the CMM Institute for Personal and Social Evolution.
...Music for Stories Lived. Stories Told. is created by Rik Spann.
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1 hr 8 min - [BONUS] Abbie VanMeter on Practicing Translation at CSCA
Abbie shares her own reflections as a participant of the Central States Communication Association Conference and as the resident podcaster. She discusses the importance of engaging in the work of translating in a variety of ways across the incredibly diverse field of communication studies.
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Listen to Ep. 1 with Kristina Scharp here.
Listen to Ep. 2 with Jeff Child here.
Listen to Ep. 3 with Tiffany Wang here.
Listen to Ep. 4 with Stevie Munz here.
Listen to Ep. 5 with Laura O'Hara here.
Listen to Ep. 6 with Xianlin Jin here.
Listen to Abbie's 'Stories Lived. Stories Told.' podcast here.
Check out the CMM Institute here.
11 min - [BONUS] Xianlin Jin on Translating Research at CSCA
Abbie and Xianlin discuss the afterlife of communication research and Xianlin's paper- What and Where Do I Learn About the Baby Formula Shortage Crisis? Exploring Crisis Communication Patterns, Influencers, and Information Resources, which won the Communication Studies Article of the Year Award.
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Find the article-What and Where Do I Learn About the Baby Formula Shortage Crisis? Exploring Crisis Communication Patterns, Influencers, and Information Resources, co-authored by Xianlin Jin, Patric Spence, and Kenneth Lachlan- here.
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Listen to Ep. 1 with Kristina Scharp here.
Listen to Ep. 2 with Jeff Child here.
Listen to Ep. 3 with Tiffany Wang here.
Listen to Ep. 4 with Stevie Munz here.
Listen to Ep. 5 with Laura O'Hara here.
Listen to Abbie's 'Stories Lived. Stories Told.' podcast here.
Check out the CMM Institute here.
18 min - [BONUS] Laura O'Hara on Sharing Creative Solutions at CSCA
Abbie and Laura reflect on the Central States Communication Association Conference, including the major benefit provided by gathering of sharing creative ideas for overcoming challenges that educators across the country face separately and together. Laura shares a useful idea from her program for engaging students while accomplishing department goals.
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Find Laura's COMM 380 Syllabus here.
Check out Laura's Department Engagement Inventory here.
View Laura's Slide Deck here.
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Listen to Ep. 1 with Kristina Scharp here.
Listen to Ep. 2 with Jeff Child here.
Listen to Ep. 3 with Tiffany Wang here.
Listen to Ep. 4 with Stevie Munz here.
Listen to Abbie's 'Stories Lived. Stories Told.' podcast here.
Check out the CMM Institute here.
14 min - On the World Cafe with Juanita Brown and Flavio Mesquita da Silva | Ep. 160
How can we turn the 'what ifs' into the 'why nots'?
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Today, Abbie, Juanita, and Flavio discuss the World Cafe, including the history of how it came to be and how it continues to evolve in relationship with other approaches like Coordinated Management of Meaning and Appreciative Inquiry.
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Juanita Brown, PhD. is the Co-founder of the World Cafe with her partner, David Isaacs as well as the co-author, also with David, of the award winning book, The World Café: Shaping our Futures Through Conversations that Matter, now translated into 18 languages. For more than 40 years Juanita has collaborated as a thinking partner with senior leaders across sectors in the U.S. and abroad, crafting large-scale change strategies and creating innovative forums for strategic dialogue on critical business and societal issues. Juanita has served as a Research Affiliate with the MIT Organizational Learning Center and the Institute for the Future, and as a Fellow with both the World Business Academy and The Fielding Institute for Social Innovation. Now in her 80’s, Juanita contributes to local community resilience and social healing from her family’s legacy homestead in the mountains of North Carolina.
Since 1978, Mesquita da Silva has worked in Brazil and internationally in consulting, training, and coaching across human, social, environmental, educational, and organizational development, collaborating with nonprofits, universities, governments, businesses, and United Nations initiatives. He received the Honor to Merit for Relevant Work in the Service of Peace from Brazil’s Chamber of Deputies and a Research Scholarship Award from the Institute for Social Innovation at Fielding Graduate University for studies on the World Café.
He is a Marie Fielder Fellow and an Institute for Social Innovation Fellow at Fielding Graduate University, where he earned his Ph.D. and M.A. in Human and Organizational Systems, focusing on the World Café and cultures of peace. He also holds an M.A. in Whole Systems Design from Antioch University Seattle with his graduate project: A Holistic Systemic Approach to Peace: A Case for Design....
Stories Lived. Stories Told. is created, produced & hosted by Abbie VanMeter.
Stories Lived. Stories Told. is an initiative of the CMM Institute for Personal and Social Evolution.
...Music for Stories Lived. Stories Told. is created by Rik Spann.
...CMM Institute Substack
CMM Institute Events Page
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Explore all things Stories Lived. Stories Told. here.
Explore all things CMM Institute here.
1 hr 11 min - On Design as Experimentation, Relationality, and Reciprocity with Hannah Goss, Jotte de Koning, and Sine Celik | Ep. 159
Where do you see communication happening?
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Today, Abbie is joined by Hannah, Sine, and Jotte of TU Delf's Systemic Design Lab (D-SDL) to talk about life and design as playful experiments. They introduce the four core practices articulated by members of the D-SDL: Framing Complexity, Meaningful Formgiving, Building Relationships, and Nurturing Reflexivity; and discuss centering relationality, moving from extracting to reciprocity, and embracing "doing less" in design.
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Hannah Goss is Assistant Professor of Transition Design at the Human-Centered Design department at TU Delft's Faculty of Industrial Design Engineering. Her research focuses on how designers can stage their expertise to foster societal transitions, developing tools and methods to help designers understand and navigate complex systems change. Her PhD focused specifically on using design to foster the transition of the Dutch food system towards reducing food waste. Hannah is a member of the TU Delft Systemic Design Lab and the Food and Eating Design Lab, contributes to systemic and transition design education, and is part of the production team of Contexts—The Systemic Design Journal.
Dr. Sine Celik is an architect and design researcher. Currently, Sine is Assistant Professor of Network-driven Systemic Change at the Faculty of Industrial Design Engineering at TU Delft. Sine’s research is situated at the intersection of systemic design, innovation research and network studies. Her work focuses on the role of social dynamics when designing for and with complex societal challenges. She earned her PhD degree from TU Delft with a thesis on the development of innovation ecosystems from a network perspective. After her PhD, she joined Aalto University Design Factory in Finland for her postdoctoral studies, where she continued exploring ecosystems and design cultures. Sine has been actively engaging with the RSD and SDA community for over a decade and was one of the organisers of RSD10 in Delft.
Jotte de Koning is an assistant professor of design for sustainability at Delft University of Technology (TUD). Her expertise lies in the field of participatory design and sustainability. Her research is focused on co-creation processes between different actors in the transition process. She explores how methods from the field of participatory design and approaches of design thinking are relevant for different stakeholders in sustainability transitions.
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Stories Lived. Stories Told. is created, produced & hosted by Abbie VanMeter.
Stories Lived. Stories Told. is an initiative of the CMM Institute for Personal and Social Evolution.
...Music for Stories Lived. Stories Told. is created by Rik Spann.
...CMM Institute Substack
CMM Institute Events Page
…
Explore all things Stories Lived. Stories Told. here.
Explore all things CMM Institute here.
1 hr 20 min - [BONUS] Stevie Munz on the CSCA Pre-Conference
Abbie and Stevie talk about the CSCA pre-conference, why the theme of "Communicating in the Unknown: Navigating Uncertainty in a Changing Field" is so important right now, and what Stevie is looking forward to about this year's conference and next.
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Register for CSCA here.
Listen to Ep. 1 with Kristina Scharp here.
Listen to Ep. 2 with Jeff Child here.
Listen to Ep. 3 with Tiffany Wang here.
Listen to Abbie's 'Stories Lived. Stories Told.' podcast here.
Check out the CMM Institute here.
13 min - On Reimagining Our Personal, Public, and Political Lives at the Co-Creating Social Worlds Symposium | Ep. 158
Welcome to the CSW Participant Podcast!
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Today, Abbie is joined by the participants of the Co-Creating Social Worlds Symposium in New York City to reflect on their experiences of this gathering. In this episode, you will hear from 11 symposium participants who stopped to speak with Abbie during the in-person symposium.
These conversations were recorded onsite at Mercy University in New York City, New York at the Co-Creating Social Worlds Symposium between January 27-28, 2026.
(Please excuse the imperfect audio quality, as this was an experiment in podcasting on the go in a crowded, public space) :)
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Stories Lived. Stories Told. is created, produced & hosted by Abbie VanMeter.
Stories Lived. Stories Told. is an initiative of the CMM Institute for Personal and Social Evolution.
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Music for Stories Lived. Stories Told. is created by Rik Spann.
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Explore all things Stories Lived. Stories Told. here.
Explore all things CMM Institute here.1 hr 21 min - [BONUS] Tiffany Wang On Creating Meaningful Experiences at CSCA
Abbie and Tiffany discuss what goes on behind the scenes to prepare for CSCA, Tiffany's dual roles as Interim Executive Director and Second Vice President, and her hopes for the meaningful experiences- both academic and non-academic- that the CSCA team has worked hard to create for conference attendees.
Plus, Tiffany offers an invitation for all conference attendees to reach out to her at [email protected] with any accessibility or dietary needs, general questions, or requests that will help enrich your CSCA experience.
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Register for CSCA here.
Listen to Ep. 1 with Kristina Scharp here.
Listen to Ep. 2 with Jeff Child here.
Listen to Abbie's 'Stories Lived. Stories Told.' podcast here.
Check out the CMM Institute here.
12 min - On Hope, Agency, and Community at the Co-Creating Social Worlds Symposium | Ep. 157
What are your 'practices for togetherness'?
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In this special episode, Abbie shares the recording of a panel she participated in, titled, 'Hope, Agency, and Community: Practices for Togetherness' at the Taos Institute's Co-Creating Social Worlds Symposium. Panel facilitator, Somer Saleh, guides Abbie and her fellow panelists, Chris Hoff and Mario Ismael Espinoza, through a conversation about coalitions, wisdom keepers, interpersonal power, shared precarity, curiosity, story-seeking, imagination, and more.
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Stories Lived. Stories Told. is created, produced & hosted by Abbie VanMeter.
Stories Lived. Stories Told. is an initiative of the CMM Institute for Personal and Social Evolution.
...Music for Stories Lived. Stories Told. is created by Rik Spann.
...CMM Institute Substack
CMM Institute Events Page
…
Explore all things Stories Lived. Stories Told. here.
Explore all things CMM Institute here.
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About Stories Lived. Stories Told.
From the publisher's feed
The purpose of Coordinated Management of Meaning is to create better social worlds through better communication. This podcast is about empowering all of us in our communication to see ourselves as…
curious and active participants with the ability to create meaningful change in our relationships and social worlds.
Our practice of CMM is about embodying a “communication perspective,” which asks us to “look at communication, rather than through it.” To take a communication perspective is to consider what we’re making and how we’re making it through our communication practices. This means we look at patterns, contexts, stories, and relationships; and that we use curiosity, mindfulness, collaboration, and dialogue to create better social worlds for ourselves.
So, join us as we take CMM from theory to practice, engage in collective learning together, and apply a communication perspective to make meaning in our conversations.
Our practice of CMM is about embodying a “communication perspective,” which asks us to “look at communication, rather than through it.” To take a communication perspective is to consider what we’re making and how we’re making it through our communication practices. This means we look at patterns, contexts, stories, and relationships; and that we use curiosity, mindfulness, collaboration, and dialogue to create better social worlds for ourselves.
So, join us as we take CMM from theory to practice, engage in collective learning together, and apply a communication perspective to make meaning in our conversations.