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Ever feel like the mountain in front of you is just too dang tall? Barry Atkins knows the feeling. After losing his son, he didn’t just sit around mourning—he decided to walk it off—literally—by trekking from Arizona to Montana with his son's ashes. And no, he wasn’t daydreaming about a scenic route; he was honoring a promise, finding healing, and discovering that grief, like walking, is best tackled one step—four miles—at a time.
In this episode, Barry shares how a childhood love for cowboy movies and a life-changing question from a man who biked across the U.
S. after 9/11 propelled him into one of the most profound journeys of his life. You'll discover how breaking life’s mountains into manageable chunks can transform heartbreak into hope and how small steps can lead to big miracles—like turning grief into a movement called the Million Mile Challenge.
We break down: the unexpected power of conversations along the road, the role of faith and community in healing, and how questions—YES, simple questions—can pivot your entire perspective. Barry's story reminds us that some journeys only make sense four miles at a time, and that sometimes, the best way to honor a promise is to just keep walking.
If you’re standing at the bottom of your own mountain, wondering if you can take the next step, this episode is your trail map. Plus, get a sneak peek into how sharing stories can inspire others on their toughest climbs. Barry’s story isn’t just about grief; it’s about resilience, faith, and the courage to walk on—no matter the distance.
Want to hear more about walking through loss and how a simple question changed everything? Join the conversation—and maybe find your own next four miles.
Nina Thiara’s story begins with chai at a kitchen table, a family visit, and a marriage that arrived quickly.
But this is not simply a story about an arranged marriage. It is a conversation about what can happen when someone spends years over-functioning, people-pleasing, and putting their own needs last until the body starts carrying what they cannot yet name.
Nina shares how depression, anxiety, exhaustion, stomach issues, and a life lived on autopilot led her into a long healing journey. Not a neat before-and-after story. A layered one. The kind where you learn to feel your emotions, understand the patterns underneath them, set healthier boundaries, and then discover there may still be another layer waiting for you down the road.
We talk about intuition, anxious attachment, journaling, the inner voice that knows something is off, and why healing is less about becoming someone new than reconnecting with who you were underneath all the programming.
Because sometimes the first real change is not blowing up your whole life. Sometimes it is finally listening to what your body has been trying to tell you.
Connect with Nina Thiara:
Facebook and Instagram: Nina Thiara
More from Doug Thompson:
Website: https://thedougthompsontx.com
LinkedIn: https://linkedin.com/in/thedougthompson
Instagram & Threads: @thedougthompson
John Bennardo had eleven two-dollar bills sitting in a checkbook box in a drawer, the kind of thing everybody's got and nobody thinks twice about. He decided to make a movie about it. Two years and a stack of interviews later, The Two Dollar Bill Documentary turned out to not really be about currency at all. It was about memory, luck, and the strange, specific things that connect total strangers.
John is a filmmaker, author, and self-described fan of the absurd. He's also a cancer survivor who learned as a teenager that humor was the only way to get through a hospital bed and an eleven-hour surgery, and a guy who treats every wild idea, a poker-table sketch comedy show, a satirical novel about cancel culture, a puzzle app that never made a dime, as another chapter in the same book instead of a separate career. Doug and John talk about noticing the small stuff nobody else sees, why "I don't have time" is never really the reason not to start something, and what it means to leave a library behind instead of a résumé.
Connect with John:
Website: https://johnbennardo.com
Documentary: https://2dollarbillmovie.com
Documentary YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/c/TheTwoDollarBillDocumentary
Personal YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@johnbennardo
Poker Studs Comedy: https://pokerstudscomedy.com
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/JBennardo222
Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/johnbennardoauthor
Connect with Doug:
Website: https://thedougthompson.com
LinkedIn: https://linkedin.com/in/thedougthompson
YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@thedougthompson
If this conversation stayed with you, follow Storytelling for Real Life so you don't miss the next one. A rating or review helps more people find the show. And if someone you know keeps shelving a weird idea because it seems too small to matter, send this one their way.
Russ Hedge has spent most of his life connecting people.
He has worked in sales and marketing for decades, built communities, hosted shows, written books, and encouraged people to show up as themselves. But a melanoma diagnosis changed the way he thought about time, purpose, and the choices we make when life takes a hard left turn.
In this conversation, Russ and I talk about the idea behind his book, *Life Happens… and Then You Choose.*
Not because we get to control everything that comes our way. We do not.
But because we still get a say in what happens next.
We talk about connection before selling, authenticity before performance, the quiet fear that keeps people playing smaller than they are, and why a little gratitude before your feet hit the floor can change the way you walk through the day.
Russ also shares what his cancer journey taught him about living more intentionally, building real community, and choosing the story you live after life hands you a chapter you never planned to write.
Connect with Russ Hedge:
Website: https://www.russhedge.com
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/russhedge/
Book: https://www.russhedge.com/buy-book-now
Connect with Doug Thompson:
Website: https://thedougthompsontx.com
LinkedIn: https://linkedin.com/in/thedougthompson
YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@thedougthompson
Instagram & Threads: @thedougthompson
Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/0xHMEppHHHV54MAJU5AYoY
My guest today is Dr. Stephanie Byerly. She's an anesthesiologist, which she'll tell you herself is a mouthful. She's also a coach and speaker who works with high achieving women who look great on paper and feel almost nothing underneath.
Stephanie spent years achieving her way to the top of academic medicine, all while carrying trauma she didn't know was steering the car. It took a facilitator in a psychodrama session to hand her the line that cracked everything open: you've been numb your whole life, and every day, you make people numb for a living.
We talk about how trauma lives in the body long before you have words for it, how girls learn the cage they're supposed to fit into by age nine or ten, and why scrolling social media can leave you carrying trauma that never actually happened to you. We also get into what it costs to set boundaries after years of being the reliable one, and why the discomfort of change is the actual price of the life you say you want.
If you've built a life that looks right from the outside and feels flat on the inside, this conversation is for you.
Stephanie is the founder of The UNNUMB Method and The UNNUMB Collective. Find her at stephaniebyerly.com, or on LinkedIn, Instagram, and Facebook at Stephanie Byerly MD.
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Website: stephaniebyerly.com
Socials: LinkedIn, Instagram, and Facebook — all @StephanieByerlyMD
On September 11, 2001, Rick DellaRatta watched the world change in real time. He did not set out to write a poem that day. The words simply started coming, one line after another, because he needed somewhere to put what he was seeing and feeling.
That poem became part of the story behind Jazz for Peace.
In this conversation, Rick and I talk about the way music can bring people together when language, religion, politics, or fear get in the way. We talk about creativity, the strange human habit of recognizing artists too late, what happens when envy gets louder than appreciation, and why we may need more than technology to move forward well.
Rick also sits down at the piano and gives the conversation a reminder that some things are better experienced than explained.
This is a conversation about art, connection, deep listening, and what happens when one person decides to keep creating after the world hands him a day he never planned to live through.
Learn more about Rick and Jazz for Peace:
https://jazzforpeace.org
https://www.rickdellaratta.com
YouTube search: JFP25
More from Doug Thompson:
https://thedougthompson.com
NOTE: This episode was not recorded on the normal platform due to an outage at the time of recording so there are difference from the normal format.
Leilani Garrett has spent years inside corporate environments where strategy decks, metrics, and serious meetings often take up most of the room.
Her work now asks a quieter question: what happens to the humans inside all of that?
In this conversation, Doug and Leilani talk about storytelling as a bridge between people, not just a tool for marketing or presentation. Leilani explains why innovation depends on trust, why AI still needs human judgment, and why leaders should pay attention to the quiet contributors who may be doing excellent work without asking to be seen.
One of the most useful moments is her idea of small story-based exercises, like asking people when they were genuinely proud at work. Not as a gimmick. As a way to help people feel known.
For planners, Leilani brings warmth, corporate credibility, and practical judgment. She understands the room and still keeps the people in focus.
Sara Davenport had the kind of career that can look like the finish line from the outside.
She was an Emmy-winning TV anchor in a major market, working in front of millions of people. But one night, during a hurricane, seven months pregnant and sitting under her desk at the station with a bag of Doritos, she found herself asking a much bigger question:
“Is this it?”
That moment became the beginning of a different story.
In this conversation, Sara and I talk about life inside TV news, the hidden cost of the dream job, the pull between identity and reinvention, and why listening may be one of the most underrated storytelling skills we have.
We also get into what AI can and cannot do, why generic content disappears from memory, and how specific stories help people feel something before they try to remember anything.
Because sometimes the story changes before we are ready to admit it.
And sometimes it starts under a desk.
Connect with Sara Davenport:
Website: www.SaraDavenport.net
LinkedIn: www.linkedin.com/in/sara-davenport-journalist/
Connect with Doug Thompson:
Website: https://thedougthompsontx.com
LinkedIn: https://linkedin.com/in/thedougthompson
YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@thedougthompson
Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/0xHMEppHHHV54MAJU5AYoY
This is a very personal episode for me.
Just before my wife went into the hospital for the last time, my friend Tara LaFon Gooch introduced me to Mark Victor Hansen by text.
In the months that followed, Mark checked in with me through texts. I was not ready to record, and he never made that a problem. His messages were kind, steady, and supportive while I was trying to find my way through a lot of loss. He met me where I was.
Mark has written 328 books, including the Chicken Soup for the Soul series, and his books have sold millions of copies. But during this season of losing both my wife and my mom, I found myself borrowing courage not only from the stories in those books, but from the kindness Mark showed me personally.
This conversation is about the stories that stay with us, the people who give us room when life is hard, and the ways hope can show up before we are fully ready to reach for it.
Connect with Mark Victor Hansen:
Website: https://markvictorhansen.com/
Library: https://www.markvictorhansenlibrary.com/
After losing both his wife and his mother within a week, Doug Thompson found himself wondering whether he should keep doing the podcast at all.
This solo episode opens Season 10 from a personal and reflective place. Doug talks about grief, memory, and the slow process of deciding what still fits after life changes in a way you did not ask for.
Out of that season came the new name: Storytelling for Real Life with Doug Thompson. It was not a rebrand as much as a recognition. The show had always been about stories that help people make meaning, build connection, and move through hard conversations.
This episode is a quiet reset for the season ahead. It is about loss, reflection, and why stories are not just for stages, books, or podcasts. Sometimes they are how we find our way through real life.
Connect with Doug:
Website: https://thedougthompsontx.com
LinkedIn: https://linkedin.com/in/thedougthompson
Instagram: @thedougthompson
Threads: @thedougthompson
Email: [email protected]
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